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Yeah, the weight difference isn't going to make much of a difference. Generally a dual exhaust setup will be quieter in most cases due to having two mufflers...My Corksport catback sounds great for the price though!
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Weight is a non-issue and power depends on other far more important variables. It all comes down to cost and noise. Single is cheaper and louder; dual is more expensive and quieter. Simple as that.
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
Weight is a non-issue and power depends on other far more important variables. It all comes down to cost and noise. Single is cheaper and louder; dual is more expensive and quieter. Simple as that.
less weight = more speed and better handling
more power = more speed
the power gain from going dual is heavily negated by the mass added.
I'd much rather drop 40lbs than gain 2hp
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Originally Posted by deagle50ae
How is weight a non-issue?
less weight = more speed and better handling
more power = more speed
the power gain from going dual is heavily negated by the mass added.
I'd much rather drop 40lbs than gain 2hp
less weight = more speed and better handling
more power = more speed
the power gain from going dual is heavily negated by the mass added.
I'd much rather drop 40lbs than gain 2hp
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Originally Posted by FCKing1995
Diff in aftermarket duel vs aftermarket single isnt 40 pounds. maybe 15. even if it was 40, thats like carrying a bag of dog food in your car, or a small child. not going to matter much. so its not a non issue, just not a big issue
you've got 8' of pipe and a resonator/muffler. it adds up if you have both.
besides, he asked about performance.
but i dunno. maybe i'm crazy.... actually, I probably am.
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Originally Posted by deagle50ae
it can't be that low..
you've got 8' of pipe and a resonator/muffler. it adds up if you have both.
besides, he asked about performance.
but i dunno. maybe i'm crazy.... actually, I probably am.
you've got 8' of pipe and a resonator/muffler. it adds up if you have both.
besides, he asked about performance.
but i dunno. maybe i'm crazy.... actually, I probably am.
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You don't lose 8' of pipe when you go single. You lose 1 muffler and half of the "Y" section, maybe 3.5' of pipe in total. I would be surprised if it added up to more than 15lbs alltogether (as mentioned)
Im guessing you're the type who never fills his tank past 1/2 because that other 25lbs of gasoline would be detrimental to the handling and performance of your FC
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cost vs. noise that you can get away with - thats the decsions he needs to make.
An FYI - J-Rat runs an RB dual system, 2.5", and his engine still produces nearly 500hp.......just an FYI.
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oooo. right right.
sorry I was thinking true duals.
I need to get pistons out of my head
if you're just doing a y in the pipe at the back of the car, then yes, the power difference is not nearly as severe as previously stated.
sorry I was thinking true duals.
I need to get pistons out of my head
if you're just doing a y in the pipe at the back of the car, then yes, the power difference is not nearly as severe as previously stated.
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
Weight is a non-issue and power depends on other far more important variables. It all comes down to cost and noise. Single is cheaper and louder; dual is more expensive and quieter. Simple as that.
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Weight makes a huge difference
be it just 10 lbs or even 5 lbs
so I would definitely go for single, which I have on my car
PS: if you think 5 extra pound is a non-issue, you are no racer.
be it just 10 lbs or even 5 lbs
so I would definitely go for single, which I have on my car
PS: if you think 5 extra pound is a non-issue, you are no racer.
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I guarantee that 2 identical cars with only 5 lbs of difference between them would be identical in terms of performance and speed on the street. In fact, 10 lbs won't even change things.
Nice disclaimer. Too bad it doesn't apply to street cars. This is reality. Not the track.
Nice disclaimer. Too bad it doesn't apply to street cars. This is reality. Not the track.
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Originally Posted by Sharado
Weight makes a huge difference
be it just 10 lbs or even 5 lbs
so I would definitely go for single, which I have on my car
PS: if you think 5 extra pound is a non-issue, you are no racer.
be it just 10 lbs or even 5 lbs
so I would definitely go for single, which I have on my car
PS: if you think 5 extra pound is a non-issue, you are no racer.
If you're that much of a racer, can you tell the difference between when you drive on a full stomach, or when you are hungary?
How about a full tank of gas to 3/4 of a tank? (which, BTW is more than 5lbs difference, so Im giving you any easy one there)
Weight does matter, and every bit can count.........when you're striving for that extra tenth for your drag car.
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Originally Posted by Sharado
Weight makes a huge difference
be it just 10 lbs or even 5 lbs
so I would definitely go for single, which I have on my car
PS: if you think 5 extra pound is a non-issue, you are no racer.
be it just 10 lbs or even 5 lbs
so I would definitely go for single, which I have on my car
PS: if you think 5 extra pound is a non-issue, you are no racer.
I better remember to empty my pockets and take out my registration next time I race...
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Originally Posted by deagle50ae
How is weight a non-issue?
less weight = more speed and better handling
more power = more speed
the power gain from going dual is heavily negated by the mass added.
I'd much rather drop 40lbs than gain 2hp
less weight = more speed and better handling
more power = more speed
the power gain from going dual is heavily negated by the mass added.
I'd much rather drop 40lbs than gain 2hp
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"Weight makes a huge difference
be it just 10 lbs or even 5 lbs
so I would definitely go for single, which I have on my car
PS: if you think 5 extra pound is a non-issue, you are no racer."
actually dude, no offense, but 5 lbs is a non-isseu, you are obviously a ricer. having an extra 5 lbs UNDER the center of gravity will only cause more pull to the underbelly, unless you are like me, and have fab'd an ENTIRE bellypan, CB i might add (goddamn, if anyone knows fiberglass or CB, then you know how hard this was!)
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be it just 10 lbs or even 5 lbs
so I would definitely go for single, which I have on my car
PS: if you think 5 extra pound is a non-issue, you are no racer."
actually dude, no offense, but 5 lbs is a non-isseu, you are obviously a ricer. having an extra 5 lbs UNDER the center of gravity will only cause more pull to the underbelly, unless you are like me, and have fab'd an ENTIRE bellypan, CB i might add (goddamn, if anyone knows fiberglass or CB, then you know how hard this was!)
PEACE
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Originally Posted by magus2222
"Weight makes a huge difference
be it just 10 lbs or even 5 lbs
so I would definitely go for single, which I have on my car
PS: if you think 5 extra pound is a non-issue, you are no racer."
actually dude, no offense, but 5 lbs is a non-isseu, you are obviously a ricer. having an extra 5 lbs UNDER the center of gravity will only cause more pull to the underbelly, unless you are like me, and have fab'd an ENTIRE bellypan, CB i might add (goddamn, if anyone knows fiberglass or CB, then you know how hard this was!)
PEACE
be it just 10 lbs or even 5 lbs
so I would definitely go for single, which I have on my car
PS: if you think 5 extra pound is a non-issue, you are no racer."
actually dude, no offense, but 5 lbs is a non-isseu, you are obviously a ricer. having an extra 5 lbs UNDER the center of gravity will only cause more pull to the underbelly, unless you are like me, and have fab'd an ENTIRE bellypan, CB i might add (goddamn, if anyone knows fiberglass or CB, then you know how hard this was!)
PEACE
wow you fabbed an entire belly pan. Any pics?
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Any weight you can remove from behind the rear axles or in front of the front axles reduces polar moment of inertia. The lower polar moment of inertia, the better. Now I'm sure it saves more than 5lbs. The heat shield for the extra muffler weighs at least 2lbs. Even if it only is 5lbs, every ounce counts. If you remove 5lbs here, 2lbs there, 10lbs someplace else it all adds up. I hope all you guys who think weight doesn't matter get smoked by some flyweight car with half the horsepower. Then maybe you'll think twice about weight reduction. As for horsepower difference, I have no idea. The less restrictive the better, is about all I can offer in that respect. Keep in mind though that it will get very loud if you have a straight single exhaust, even with a good muffler and catalytic converter. My S5 TII with a 3" turboback, cat, and muffler is deafening, and because of that I really don't drive it on the street much. So it's certainly something to think about.
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i think its 1/100 off your 1/4 mile time for evey 100lbs of weight lost, but even up 2 50lbs on street car makes nuthing change. this car drives so nice you dont evne know its there, theis cars gonna get a dual exhaust and hopesfully true dual, looking at racing beat road race system will check out corkport 2
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Originally Posted by MazterDizazter
Any weight you can remove from behind the rear axles or in front of the front axles reduces polar moment of inertia. The lower polar moment of inertia, the better. Now I'm sure it saves more than 5lbs. The heat shield for the extra muffler weighs at least 2lbs. Even if it only is 5lbs, every ounce counts. If you remove 5lbs here, 2lbs there, 10lbs someplace else it all adds up. I hope all you guys who think weight doesn't matter get smoked by some flyweight car with half the horsepower. Then maybe you'll think twice about weight reduction. As for horsepower difference, I have no idea. The less restrictive the better, is about all I can offer in that respect. Keep in mind though that it will get very loud if you have a straight single exhaust, even with a good muffler and catalytic converter. My S5 TII with a 3" turboback, cat, and muffler is deafening, and because of that I really don't drive it on the street much. So it's certainly something to think about.
Good lord, thinking about it, I better go empty my windsheild washer fluid res. and all of that dirty brake fluid! Its weighing down the front end a little too much for my liking. Maybe Ill do away with the oil too. It all adds up!
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this is funny, this guy obviously isnt going to track the car seriously otherwise hed already know all this stuff.....
the OP is, for my guess, going to use this car 95-99.5% of the time on the street.
now all you internet racers with your "5lbs make the biggest difference" crap get off this board because you sound like tools.
the OP is, for my guess, going to use this car 95-99.5% of the time on the street.
now all you internet racers with your "5lbs make the biggest difference" crap get off this board because you sound like tools.