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ok so i finally came across my money to get my computer, has anyone ever heard of microtech, a guy is selling one within more than my price range cause ill be saving money plus it comes with a box to set up coil per pack meaning gets rid of factory coils and i can put a single coil per spark plug
if anyone has heard of that brand please get back with me cause if its junk then im not gunna buy it, but if someone knows of it then please get back with me
if anyone has heard of that brand please get back with me cause if its junk then im not gunna buy it, but if someone knows of it then please get back with me
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Microtech is a brand name, and there are several current and outdated models. Most people consider Microtech a decent cheap brand of EMS, as it is not very robust, but it has proven to run rotary engines well over many years. One thing to watch out for is that Microtech pre-sets the more complicated parameters for a particular engine at their factory in Australia. While this makes it easier to tune, it also makes it a nightmare if you buy a used EMS that is pre-set for a different engine type because it must be sent back to Australia for reconfiguration which costs several hundred dollars. Therefore, make sure you buy one set up for "12A or 13B Series 4 crank setup, Bosch coils x4". You may also want to check the model type to make sure you are not buying something that is horribly outdated. The Microtech subforum listed above by need RX7 can help you with this. You may also want to post in that forum to verify that you are getting a good deal for your money.
When you write "finally came across my money to get my computer" it sounds like you have been shopping for a while. If this is the case, and you have never heard of Microtech, then that makes me think that you are totally clueless because it is probably the most popular brand of EMS for our cars. It is fine to be totally clueless, as we all start there, but I just want to make sure that you understand what you are getting yourself into. For example, do you realize that it totally replaces the stock ECU for engine functions, therefore rather than making small changes to the existing system like a piggyback ECU, you must completely program the fuel injector pulsewidths and ignition timing tables, recalibrate the TPS, set the idle and off-idle, tune the acceleration enrichment, set the timing advance, set the temperature compensation values, etc.? Do you realize that most of the tuning tools will require a laptop computer? Do you realize that you could destroy your engine if you screw up the tuning, and that a professional usually charges $500-1,500 to tune an engine for you?
Also, had you used the forum Search function for "Microtech", you would have come up with thousands of hits.
When you write "finally came across my money to get my computer" it sounds like you have been shopping for a while. If this is the case, and you have never heard of Microtech, then that makes me think that you are totally clueless because it is probably the most popular brand of EMS for our cars. It is fine to be totally clueless, as we all start there, but I just want to make sure that you understand what you are getting yourself into. For example, do you realize that it totally replaces the stock ECU for engine functions, therefore rather than making small changes to the existing system like a piggyback ECU, you must completely program the fuel injector pulsewidths and ignition timing tables, recalibrate the TPS, set the idle and off-idle, tune the acceleration enrichment, set the timing advance, set the temperature compensation values, etc.? Do you realize that most of the tuning tools will require a laptop computer? Do you realize that you could destroy your engine if you screw up the tuning, and that a professional usually charges $500-1,500 to tune an engine for you?
Also, had you used the forum Search function for "Microtech", you would have come up with thousands of hits.
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well im not clueless, i will say this much what you mentioned about all that will need to be tuned is a big whoa i mean ive gotten in depth with cars before but that was a mouth full and a half lmao but im not clueless on ECUs i just had a buddy of mine who had a microtech tell me i should look into them he had one and it was great for him, the lt-10s i believe is the model im getting it is set up for a 13b, and i did realize that i would have to do it by laptop for tuning settings but where would i get the software for it or is it possible that it will come with it? and what i meant buy come across the money is that i realized that stand alones werent cheap so i saved up my money and i have enough to where i can get a good brand so thats why i was checking in on this brand
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[QUOTE=XxGeTxRx7Xx;9670848i just had a buddy of mine who had a microtech tell me i should look into them he had one and it was great for him[/QUOTE]
Good, that makes me feel better.
OK, that model is current. Just make sure it is set up for the CAS and aftermarket coils if that is what you plan on using.
You can download the software and the manual from the internet.
http://microtechefi.com/
A good brand would be Motec or Autronic. Microtech is a cheap brand, but it works.
Good, that makes me feel better.
http://microtechefi.com/
A good brand would be Motec or Autronic. Microtech is a cheap brand, but it works.
12-11-09, 06:23 PM
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well your like my new best friend lol, ive been reading on it and it will come with the manual but not the software, as far as the coils go it is coming with the device to hook in COP but where would i get that stuff at
also i will be running 1600CC sec 720CC pri what settings would that be for
also i will be running 1600CC sec 720CC pri what settings would that be for
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There isn't a factory pre-set for fuel injectors. You set those yourself by adjusting the staging and the pulsewidth during tuning. Just be sure to check the manual to make sure you set up everything correctly based on the impedance of your injectors.
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ya i hear ya and i was talking to a few of the RX7 guys around here and they say its probably best not to do the COP because of what you have mention and its kinda more money on a consistence out of your pocket
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Please remember that while the Microtech is a solid and reliable ECU, proven over many years, it is also years behind the times.
The Microtech does NOT offer the following which is standard for all ECUs on the market:
-saving maps to disk
-closed loop operation
-user configurable I/O
-3D timing maps
-user configurable engine parameters
That said, the Microtech seems to be the only ECU that does not suffer ignition noise.
The Microtech does NOT offer the following which is standard for all ECUs on the market:
-saving maps to disk
-closed loop operation
-user configurable I/O
-3D timing maps
-user configurable engine parameters
That said, the Microtech seems to be the only ECU that does not suffer ignition noise.
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I'm saying that you should look at more modern ECUs before you go to the Microtech. I run one on my car and I am happy with it, but I sure wish that I had the stuff I listed. The only thing that keeps me from swapping ECUs to something more capable is the reliability of the Microtech. I have not installed a Microtech since I wired up mine. My next project will run a Megasquirt.
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well then if you can find me something thats a more modern ECU thats in the same rather price range as the lt-10s then ill look into it but i have more than enough that say i should look into a mircotech cause theres enough info on it so
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http://www.haltech.com.au/index.php?...d=94&Itemid=77
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=62
http://wolfems.cart.net.au/cat/3754.html
You could also use an adapter kit to install a PFC, although I am not sure I would call it modern.
http://www.banzai-racing.com/S4_PFC_install.htm
http://www.banzai-racing.com/S5_PFC_install.htm
It would be a downgrade when compared to a Microtech LT-10s.
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Agreed^^^ Its also very limited
You can find many used (and perfectly fine) EMS for your car for a decent price, you just gotta know what you want. You're on the right track more or less. I will be running an Apexi Power FC like Evilaviator posted in #2 above
You can find those complete with everything you need for right around $1K
You can find many used (and perfectly fine) EMS for your car for a decent price, you just gotta know what you want. You're on the right track more or less. I will be running an Apexi Power FC like Evilaviator posted in #2 above
You can find those complete with everything you need for right around $1K
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i guess the big thing im wanting is just to tune my car, get rid of the MAF(big problem right now) have it set up for my fuel setup tune my maps just everything like that basically
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