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Old 01-13-07 | 03:32 PM
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HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!!! I am SO damn sorry!!! I think I need to go cry now....

*edit* If I can help out getting you back up and running, let me know!

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Old 01-13-07 | 03:32 PM
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Man, that sucks bro. It could have been ALOT worse. Good thing you had an extinguisher.

What kind of fire extinguisher did you have btw?
Old 01-13-07 | 03:54 PM
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any idea what caused it?... i guess i better put that fire i have in my car
Old 01-13-07 | 04:03 PM
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Anyone interested in getting a Halon fire extinguisher now should probably take a look at this site.

http://www.h3r.com/products/home_vehicle.htm

I'll be ordering my own very soon now.
Old 01-13-07 | 04:58 PM
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Old 01-13-07 | 05:37 PM
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Old 01-13-07 | 06:05 PM
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thanks everyone for the heartfelt wishes....... this was a big blow for me, but fear not, im not gonna give up! as soon as im done here, im gonna go out and hose out the engine bay to get rid of all the extinguisher junk, and see the real damage.... ill post some pics later to show what was actually burnt....

as of right now, i have no clue what started it.... obviously a fuel leak, i just have to figure out where....

and the fire extinguisher was a apc chrome fire extinguisher.... as crazy as it is, my best friend lent it to me 3 days ago saying "here, take this just in case, better safe then sorry" .... he is now my hero!
Old 01-13-07 | 06:34 PM
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wow so you were able to stop the car, get out and open the hood without burning your hands?

i always thought that youwouldnt be able to open the hood if there was an under-hood fire
Old 01-13-07 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by vipers

as of right now, i have no clue what started it.... obviously a fuel leak, i just have to figure out where....
Hey Vipers...Sorry to hear about your misfortunate accident. You have a great looking car and Im sure you will have it back up and running in no time at all.

I remember Robert (fc3s91) mentioning to me that he spoke with you at sevenstock and made you aware of a fuel leak he noticed at your secondary injectors. I guess Guitarjunkie however felt like Robert didnt know what he was talking about and dismissed his observations. Maybe next time he wont.
Old 01-13-07 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Secondmessiah
wow so you were able to stop the car, get out and open the hood without burning your hands?

i always thought that youwouldnt be able to open the hood if there was an under-hood fire
The flames never really go that far forward, in my fire they were blowing out the passenger side, while sucking air in the drivers side, the furthest forwards the flame got was the back of the stock fan shroud.
Old 01-13-07 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotorlution
Hey Vipers...Sorry to hear about your misfortunate accident. You have a great looking car and Im sure you will have it back up and running in no time at all.

I remember Robert (fc3s91) mentioning to me that he spoke with you at sevenstock and made you aware of a fuel leak he noticed at your secondary injectors. I guess Guitarjunkie however felt like Robert didnt know what he was talking about and dismissed his observations. Maybe next time he wont.

yeah, i remember... but that leak was fixed.... we pulled the fittings off and re wrapped them in teflon... and the leak was fixed.... dave made it a point for me to get it fixed... i think it was just a freak accident.. nobody is to blame, it just happened...
Old 01-13-07 | 11:02 PM
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damn that sucks man, i know a guy over in tampa that makes his own microtech harness if you need to get one asap. but in the mean time chug a few of these.
Old 01-13-07 | 11:51 PM
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Aw man, that is a beautiful car. Good luck bro.
Old 01-14-07 | 01:43 AM
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I guess a steam cleaner would help you start off your cleaning.
Old 01-14-07 | 02:08 AM
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very sorry to hear the bad news. i also had an engine fire but it was only for about 10 to 20 seconds (which is still a fair amount time for your engine to be burning. )
now i cary 2 fire extinguishers. a chrome apc and a home depo

every failure carries with it the seed of an equivalent or greater advantage
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Old 01-14-07 | 02:08 AM
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I know i heard about that happening i'm sorry about that dude that would ruin your day.
Old 01-14-07 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by vipers
im really depressed right now, so ill make it quick..... i was on my way home from work, and everything cut out.. my engine died, lights shut off.. and my interior filled w/ smoke.... pulled over and my engine bay had caught fire.... so luckily i had a fire extingusher in the car...so i got the fire put out.... from what i saw at a quick glance, my injectors, fuel rails, microtech wiring, manifold, AN fittings, and vacuum lines are fried.... ill dig deeper tomarrow to assess further!!

heres the technical aspect... KEEP A FIRE EXTINGUISHER WITH YOU AT ALL TIMES!!!! regardless if everything under your hood is new, old, whatever... it can happen to anyone!







Damn that sucks, I hope you get ehr back up and running in no time!
Old 01-14-07 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by vipers
yeah, i remember... but that leak was fixed.... we pulled the fittings off and re wrapped them in teflon... and the leak was fixed.... dave made it a point for me to get it fixed... i think it was just a freak accident.. nobody is to blame, it just happened...
Using teflon with -an fittings is a no-no.
Pipe thread fittings sure, but never with -an type.

The threads are not what seals the connection with -an fittings, it is the 37' angled seats that mate up to one another. This is universal between all brands of fittings. If teflon is used and the seats are not sealed properly (due to imperfections/damage to the mating surfaces etc.), teflon would not do a damn thing to seal them in the long run anyways as the leak would occur at the rear of the threaded cap. Teflon could also get between the mated surfaces during installation and contaminate the seal.

If a race team, or more to the point, an aircraft mechanic saw you use teflon with an -an fitting, you would be reprimanded, if not not worse.
Old 01-14-07 | 02:44 PM
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teflopn tape and -AN fittings is DEF. a no-no.
Old 01-14-07 | 03:59 PM
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Just saw this thread...I can't imagine how it would feel to put so much work into a project and then have that sinking feeling when you actually see the flames...It's a good thing that you had the fire extinguisher handy and had the piece of mind to use it. (I know that I've emptied mine on two other people's cars, but never had to use it on my own).

The damage doesnt look too bad from the pictures, so once you clean things up I'm sure it will look 100% better.

Hopefully you will also find the cause of the fire in the first place as well.
Old 01-14-07 | 04:14 PM
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Man sorry to hear what happened. Just be glad that you caught it in time. It would really suck to see a piece of art like that be lost. Much more I am glad that you are safe.
Old 01-14-07 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RX-Heven
Using teflon with -an fittings is a no-no.
Pipe thread fittings sure, but never with -an type.

The threads are not what seals the connection with -an fittings, it is the 37' angled seats that mate up to one another. This is universal between all brands of fittings. If teflon is used and the seats are not sealed properly (due to imperfections/damage to the mating surfaces etc.), teflon would not do a damn thing to seal them in the long run anyways as the leak would occur at the rear of the threaded cap. Teflon could also get between the mated surfaces during installation and contaminate the seal.

If a race team, or more to the point, an aircraft mechanic saw you use teflon with an -an fitting, you would be reprimanded, if not not worse.

yeah, i should have explained more.... the leak was coming from the fuel rail end w/ is pipe threaded... all the an fittings do not have teflon on them.... my fault for not giving all the details...
Old 01-14-07 | 05:19 PM
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RX-Heven,

Good thing i saw your reply, im currently putting together my fuel system. I have been using teflon tape, but now i will remove it all.

I just wanted to make sure that on AN fittings I am not suposed to use anything? I just need to make sure they are all the way mated together?
Old 01-15-07 | 11:27 AM
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AN flares seal on the 37 degree surface by forming a contact ring. There is no need for any kind of sealant on the flare side. HOWEVER on the NPT or straight thread side of the adapters, you will need to use the appropriate sealant. Use Teflon tape for 1/4" and bigger NPT, teflon compound (pipe dope) on 1/8" NPT and smaller, o-rings on ORB fittings, crush washers or dowty seals on straight thread and then whatever is recommended on any other threads.

FWIW, all the major plumbing suppliers (Russel, Earls, Aeromotive, Aeroquip, etc.) have catalogs you can request or download from the website. These catalogs include full assembly and use instructions as well as torque specs, etc.
Old 01-17-07 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Juiceh
Anyone interested in getting a Halon fire extinguisher now should probably take a look at this site.

http://www.h3r.com/products/home_vehicle.htm

I'll be ordering my own very soon now.
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