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Old 05-09-03 | 07:33 AM
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S5 NA Intake hardpipe kit??

Does anybody know of a hardpipe intake kit? If not I suppose I could go to some muffler shop and have them make something, but I'd rather have one that was designed for the car. My roomate's supra has one and it sounds awesome and gave him a noticable boost in power... I searched and found nada, whats the deal guys?

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Old 05-09-03 | 07:46 AM
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not much out there, ive seen one once for sale, but it was on a forigen site and you can only order stuff through money order / check. keep loking or maybe try using another cars piping and cut it. thats what im looking into doing
Old 05-09-03 | 09:09 AM
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I may be mistaken, but aren't hardpipes only really beneficial to turbo cars because the pipes won't baloon under boost?

Now, I can understand having a straight pipe for intake velocity, but it doesnt necessarily have to be a hardpipe. It could be made of rubber or plastic and still work.
Old 05-09-03 | 09:19 AM
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well, a hard pipe will likely flow better bc the area the air flows across is much smoother. don't expect big gains...this is really a piece of mind mod that frees up some room in the engine bay to get your hands dirty. I know you can use any intake pipe designed for an Integra GSR as the shape is nearly identical to what we need and the vacuum nipples are pre-welded - all you might need is a hacksaw (if you want to shorten the pipe), the AFM adapter and some hose clamps. And we all know u can buy a hard intake tube for an integra for like $30 bucks. If you have a turbo II just make yourself a nice TID...nice increases there in power, response and sound
Old 05-09-03 | 09:30 AM
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its a double edged sword. the metal pipe will flow better but it will also heat the intake charge more. so what you are gaining in restriction loss you are losing in heat gain.if you get one make sure it paint it with a heat reflection paint or use exhaust wrap. something along those lines. i haven't seen any for ours. what would be sweet is if you could have one made out of teflon impregnated abs. heat resistant and very little drag.
Old 05-09-03 | 09:48 AM
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true...but this is an NA...doesn't really matter what it's made out of, at the end of the day it won't speed up or slow down your car at all - you won't feel this mod. however small they are though there should be flow increases but I have the feeling that any real intake restriction is in the manifolds. a hard intake pipe/or just a simple filter on the AFM will compliment a header/racepipe/catback though as you'll have improved breathing efficiency into and out of the motor significantly!! save your pennies, buy an intake, downpipe and catback all at once...you should be able to get everything for about $800 if you go with something lke an Apexi N1 and a bonez intake/downpipe.
Old 05-09-03 | 08:57 PM
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Considering how big the stock pipe is, I really can't see any advantage to this. It's 3" off the AFM and doesn't get any smaller. That's huge for an NA. There are so many other restrictions along the way, any change to such a minor one is not going to be noticable. The only reason I can see for doing this is for looks.
Old 05-09-03 | 09:08 PM
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I beg to differ, an intake CAN be felt...it's just not one of those crazy kick in the pants type of feelings. But you will notice a difference in the car. As far as the hard pipe vs. a plastic pipe...the differences are probably not really noticable. The length of the piping will make a difference though. Oh yea NZ, I agree 3" is HUGE for an N/A.
Old 05-09-03 | 10:07 PM
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I found this http://www.checkpointmotors.net/Prod...ail.asp?pID=39
Infact, this Is what I'm currently working on too, coincidently.
Old 05-09-03 | 11:34 PM
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yeah, that site also says you need TII secondaries to use that kit. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard! No intake mod will ever deliver that much air to need bigger injectors.
The only benefit of that kit is that it runs up into the bumper for cooler air. Having a metal pipe does jack for power, so don't waste your money.
Old 05-10-03 | 12:30 AM
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Steve (I believe his name was) said that this effects s5's only due to their VDI setup. So before anyone harps on him, I'd talk to him first hand. Although he's reputable In the Rotary community, I remain sceptical to say the least.

Again, talk with him to provide additional Info Inregards to why he suggests upgrading to TII Injector's In relation to the True Cold Ram setup with the s5.
Old 05-10-03 | 02:39 AM
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I'd suggest it's so you'll pay him to do it...

There's absolutely no reason why a simple cold air intake is going to suddenly make an engine (that run's quite rich when stock) run so lean as to need bigger injectors. It's nonsense. Ask him to prove it before handing over any money.
Old 05-10-03 | 11:30 AM
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This isn't a first mod, this would be after finishing exhaust from the headers back, and getting a cold air box and intake, streetport, and manifold and TB porting. Basicly just trying to move as much air as possible, as smoothly as possible.

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Old 05-10-03 | 04:25 PM
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BNR Supercars made a short ram air intake kit for the second and third generation RX-7's, but I don't know what happened to there web site. I try to go to it but it say's that the URL was not found on this server. If any of you guy's know what BNR Supercars website is please tell me.




Thanx,
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Old 05-10-03 | 04:32 PM
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Use of an intake kit could be negative. If its metal, it would absorb more heat. The stock one is fine, and youd see no difference except looks, and a cone filter, which can be added to the stock pipe anyway.
Old 05-11-03 | 01:44 PM
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As I mentioned, I'm currently looking Into making a true ram air Intake.

I ask, what kind of material should I use and what not to use? I understand the heat transfer but find Aluminum piping to be the best so far. It Is light and allows for quick heat dissipitation, If any.
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