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Old 06-06-12 | 07:53 PM
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pulled back:

2&7 2&8 2&10
5&10
7&8 7&10
9&10
Old 06-06-12 | 08:33 PM
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Is there anything that sticks out to you when looking at these results and I'm talking about the "up" continuity and the "down" continuity? If not, that's okay I'm just wondering if you're seeing what I am seeing.
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looks like pin 3 is the wire for "up" and pin 4 is the wire for "down"?
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
looks like pin 3 is the wire for "up" and pin 4 is the wire for "down"?
Beautiful, as that is precisely what I am seeing as well. Glad you saw this as well. Furthermore, if you look just at the continuities w/the 3 pin and the continuities w/the 4 pin what else do you see in common w/these two sets of numbers?
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they both have pin 8 in common
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
they both have pin 8 in common
Correctomundo. So from your data set provided it appears that the 8 pin is the pin which receives voltage from the Turn fuse via the Brown/Red wire? And that the Green/Red wire for the left turn goes to pin 4 and thus pin 3 goes to the Green/Yellow wire? So can you connect these three wires to those respected pins while making sure there are no other wires in the plug and see if you can get both the right and left turn signals to work. There is a Black ground wire, but it appears that it is for the illumination bulb in addition to the turn cancel unit and this wire not being connected should not interfere w/the turn signals from at least flashing or lighting up. So try this and see what you get and hopefully you'll come up w/some meaningful results. I have to get back to my vacation for a while, but will check in to see how things "turned" out.
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So from your data set provided it appears that the 8 pin is the pin which receives voltage from the Turn fuse via the Brown/Red wire?
you mean black/red?
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
you mean black/red?
I did that on purpose.
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it also looks like pins 1 and 6 are the two empties?
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both signals are working

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both signals are working
I guess that means the headbanging against the wall is to be delayed. Oh darn. There is a 2&8 and a 7&8 for both up and down so the power wire #8 is a know entity so that leaves the #2 and the #7 pins. If I were to guess I would say one goes to the Green/White wire. Again, this is a guess so if one of these two pins were connected to the G/W wire then not only will the turn signals work, but if you turn the wheel it would cancel the turn signals, so have at it, and if neither of these pins help to do that then choose another pin from the first two data sets that are common denominators to both.
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And the ground wire needs to be pinned or the cancel unit won't work as I forgot to mention this aspect.
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the turn signals both work with the G/W wire connected to pin 7, pin 2, or not connected at all. the turn signal cancel didnt seem to work under any of those conditions. i am not too worried about the turn signal cancel working.
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And the ground wire needs to be pinned or the cancel unit won't work as I forgot to mention this aspect.
so between pins 2 and 7....one is ground and the other is G/W?
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with pin 2 ground and the G/W connected to pin 7, the turn signal cancel work. that just leaves the 3 red wires
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with pin 2 ground and the G/W connected to pin 7, the turn signal cancel work. that just leaves the 3 red wires
As far as the turn switch is concerned, you then have 5 of the six relevant wires, so that leaves one of the Red/Green wires for the switch illumination. If that R/G wire was connected to the right pin then the bulb should illuminate w/the headlight switch turned to the 1st position.
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R/G in pin 10 causes the switch to illuminate.

that leave R/W and R/Y, pins 1, 5, 6, 9
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
R/G in pin 10 causes the switch to illuminate.

that leave R/W and R/Y, pins 1, 5, 6, 9
You can perhaps do another round of continuity tests on the last four pins. You can do the test w/the lever pulled back and held in that position as the meter pins are wedged into the back of the plug and see what continuity you get. I would think it would be rather limited by now, but who knows.
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You can do the test w/the lever pulled back and held in that position as the meter pins are wedged into the back of the plug and see what continuity you get.
not quite sure i follow you on that.

wouldnt 1 and 6 be the two empties since they didnt have any continuity with any lever position?

what are the R/W and R/Y wires for? something with the headlights?

i'm guessing pin 9 would be for the brights since that pin only had continuity when the lever was pulled back?
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
not quite sure i follow you on that.

wouldnt 1 and 6 be the two empties since they didnt have any continuity with any lever position?

what are the R/W and R/Y wires for? something with the headlights?

i'm guessing pin 9 would be for the brights since that pin only had continuity when the lever was pulled back?
That makes sense so go with it. If the last two wires are pinned properly then the flash to pass brights would turn on w/the lever pulled back w/o the headlight switch needing to be turned on.
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we are in business! pin 5 is R/Y and and 9 is R/W. everything is working now. thanks a lot. i really appreciate it. if you ever need any spare switches or anything for your car, let me know.
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we are in business! pin 5 is R/Y and and 9 is R/W. everything is working now. thanks a lot. i really appreciate it. if you ever need any spare switches or anything for your car, let me know.
Very good deal!!!! In retrospect that really wasn't that hard, but when you first posted some of the continuity results it appeared overwhelming at first glance, but the answers were in the numbers. Now back to my vacation. And can I have your S4 Turn Switch? And I hope others were able to witness how we were able to do something not really previously detailed
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sure, PM me your address and ill send it out saturday. i have S4 or S5...let me know which you want.

it wasnt too bad...i just didnt want to burn something out and then have a bigger headache to deal with.
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sure, PM me your address and ill send it out saturday. i have S4 or S5...let me know which you want.

it wasnt too bad...i just didnt want to burn something out and then have a bigger headache to deal with.
I was just joshing.
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well let me know...i have a spare. thanks again



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