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Old 09-11-09 | 03:09 PM
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s4 turbo II fuel pump LPH?

Anyone know the lph of the stock turboII fuel pump? How much power is it good for?
Old 09-11-09 | 04:28 PM
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Not good for anything over stock
Old 09-11-09 | 06:21 PM
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any real data?
Old 09-11-09 | 06:49 PM
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Just buy a FD fuel pump, it pushes more than 255lph. I can tell you that the stock TII fuel pumps are (guessing) 200ishlph.
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This is the only data I've every found: https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/measured-flow-stock-tii-pump-524944/#post9154530

It includes flow data for the NA fuel pumps too. You'll see pretty quickly that over ~3.5 bar (51psi), the stock TII pump is struggling.

Also note that a walbro's 255LPH claim is at low pressure and 13.5V. Pump voltage in car will only be 12V.
Old 09-11-09 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryRocket88
This is the only data I've every found: https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?p=9154530

It includes flow data for the NA fuel pumps too. You'll see pretty quickly that over ~3.5 bar (51psi), the stock TII pump is struggling.

Also note that a walbro's 255LPH claim is at low pressure and 13.5V. Pump voltage in car will only be 12V.
ummm vehicle voltage when the car is running is ~14v
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yes but only 12v gets to the pump.
Old 09-11-09 | 10:58 PM
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yes but only 12v gets to the pump.
Fix your wiring
Old 09-12-09 | 12:30 AM
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If you need a pump i have a complete drop in walbro. PM me if interested.
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Originally Posted by Sketch_hs
ummm vehicle voltage when the car is running is ~14v
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Fix your wiring
If measured at the alternator or battery, sure. Break out the multimeter and test for yourself. You're not getting 14V at the pump.

Oh, and you're welcome for the info .
Old 09-12-09 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RotaryRocket88
If measured at the alternator or battery, sure. Break out the multimeter and test for yourself. You're not getting 14V at the pump.

Oh, and you're welcome for the info .
13.9, last time I checked which was about 3 hours ago. Alt was @ 14.1. There's not much reason why you should be expecting such a dramatic drop except for old wiring.
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Originally Posted by ifryrice
13.9, last time I checked which was about 3 hours ago. Alt was @ 14.1. There's not much reason why you should be expecting such a dramatic drop except for old wiring.
Small gauge wire, long wire length, the ignition switch, 3 relays (main, circuit opening & fuel pump resistor/relay) and other electrical loads all combine to drop the voltage at the pump. Old wires can certainly play a role, but it is by far not the only reason. If you really measured 13.9V at the pump, your system has likely been rewired to bypass a relay or two and/or has larger wiring. Of course at WOT, this value will drop even more, so whatever you measure in the driveway is of little importance.

Consult S4 FSM page 4B-72. Pump voltage spec is "approx 12V" with the engine running, not "approx 14V."

Regardless, this really doesn't matter much and is getting off-topic. The flow data speaks for itself when it comes to comparing the stock fuel pumps to aftermarket choices.

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Old 09-12-09 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RotaryRocket88
Small gauge wire, long wire length, the ignition switch, 2 relays (circuit opening & fuel pump resistor/relay) and other electrical loads all combine to drop the voltage at the pump. Old wires can certainly play a role, but it is by far not the only reason. If you really measured 13.9V at the pump, your system has likely been rewired to bypass a relay or two and/or has larger wiring. Of course at WOT, this value will drop even more, so whatever you measure in the driveway is of little importance.

Consult S4 FSM page 4B-72. Pump voltage spec is "approx 12V" with the engine running, not "approx 14V."

Regardless, this really doesn't matter much and is getting off-topic. The flow data speaks for itself when it comes to comparing the stock fuel pumps to aftermarket choices.
It's stock, haven't gotten around to rewiring as it's still on the stock pump and the voltage isn't terrible. I don't have any drop during WOT either (@ pump). Only additional load at the time was running lights, though I don't see much significant drop with radio/blower on either for that matter. All contacts/relays/etc have been cleaned up as well as the pump connections as well.

It would make sense for the FSM to describe a '12v' system as 'approx' 12v rather than describing it's charging voltage.
Old 09-12-09 | 02:19 AM
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Looks like the stock turboII pump should be able to handle 300whp no problem
Old 09-12-09 | 02:20 AM
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I got my fuel pump wired with a nice thick gauge wire to ignition on voltage 14v at pump should help
Old 09-12-09 | 04:05 PM
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i have a s5 turbo II and I have the walbro255 runing 14v and it works like a champ
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