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s4 t2 vs 7m-gte supra

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Old 07-29-02 | 11:01 PM
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s4 t2 vs 7m-gte supra

Which do ya think would win it, stock for stock?
Old 07-29-02 | 11:25 PM
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a MKIII supra turbo is slightly faster than an s4 turbo, and about equal with an s5 turbo. they have more power potential too, but cant even come close in cornering ability.
Old 07-29-02 | 11:57 PM
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thanks.... I was thinking about getting a supra, but it would be more expensive, plus I like the rx body style better. Wankels are cool too. Something different for a change.
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It annoys me when people say the S5 is faster then the S4. The S5 is more HP, but the S4 is lighter.. Stock they are the exact same 1/4 mile numbers.

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dammit, that **** annoys me 2.
Old 07-30-02 | 01:55 AM
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I would imagine it would be to close to call. All comes down to the drivers....
Old 07-30-02 | 02:25 AM
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the S5 looks faster tho
Old 07-30-02 | 02:42 AM
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the S5 looks faster tho
and heavier

wouldn't mind their turbo/mannifold though
Old 07-30-02 | 02:53 AM
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she s5 has a faster 0-60
Old 07-30-02 | 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by Rpeck
The S5 is more HP, but the S4 is lighter.. Stock they are the exact same 1/4 mile numbers.
You can't directly compare performance times that were most likely taken at completely different times and places and with different drivers. Consider the fact that both power/weight and torque/weight ratios improved, plus some reductions in rotating mass, and it's more likely that back-to-back the S5 was slightly faster than the S4.
Old 07-30-02 | 02:56 AM
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i have an 87 t2 and my friend has an 88 mkiii turbo. i can beat him off the line because i'm a better driver, but we did some highway runs and he pulled on me every time. he had a fresh j-spec and i had a tired 170k engine, but i also had a dp/mp. and his was bone stock
Old 07-30-02 | 11:01 AM
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Re: s4 t2 vs 7m-gte supra

Originally posted by nonameo
Which do ya think would win it, stock for stock?
7m-gte is the single turbo 3.0 L supra engine right?

stock for stock...I think the supra should win.
Old 07-30-02 | 11:06 AM
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which supra is that? the ones that look like an overweight fc, or the nice newer ones(like in that movie that everyone has seen)
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Old 07-30-02 | 11:15 AM
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really, i have never raced one, but have heard from other people that have driven them, all said that they were way too heavy. did some of them come without turbos. how much do they weigh, 225 hp isn't it.
Old 07-30-02 | 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Rpeck
It annoys me when people say the S5 is faster then the S4. The S5 is more HP, but the S4 is lighter.. Stock they are the exact same 1/4 mile numbers.

Page with stock RX numbers

You need to look over those #s.. the GSL-SE was faster then most of the second gen RX-7s


it had almost the same power and weighed a few hundred pounds less


-Zach
Old 07-30-02 | 11:23 AM
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Hey, I didnt make the chart .. I just found the chart. But all the charts i have read about stock RX #'s had the S4 & S5 being the same by the end of the quarter mile.

But hell what do I care .. my car is nowhere near stock.
Old 07-30-02 | 11:25 AM
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really, i have never raced one, but have heard from other people that have driven them, all said that they were way too heavy. did some of them come without turbos. how much do they weigh, 225 hp isn't it.
3L inline Six.
N/A : 200 hp 188 lb-ft 3459 lbs
Turbo : 230 hp 246 lb-ft. 3530 lbs

Those numbers went up a tiny bit in the latter years of the Mark III...
Old 07-30-02 | 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by zyounker



You need to look over those #s.. the GSL-SE was faster then most of the second gen RX-7s


it had almost the same power and weighed a few hundred pounds less


-Zach
ROFL at those numbers, they're quite optimistic for 2nd gen cars. I have yet to see a bone stock s4 TII run mid 14s with decent driver... I could be wrong though.
Old 07-30-02 | 11:30 AM
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Wow I wish my n/a s5 would run 15.3
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