Removal and Repair of Sunroof!
04-25-06 | 08:41 PM
#27
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I have a very odd sunroof problem. It works great. But, it pops up (like it should) and slides back about a 1/4 of an inch and stops. It won't go back any further (It tries to.) if you press the button a few times, you can see that it is trying to force it backward. So I grabbed a socket wrench with an allen head on it and manually cranked it back another 1/2 inch to an inch and it slides back like it should. It moves nice and freely, not straining, after you manually crank it back from that point. But once you slide it forward to the point again, it'll only go forward and close, not back again. It's very strange. I have cleaned it with cuetips and foaming sprays and ****, relubed it, without taking it apart and it has done nothing for the problem.
04-26-06 | 01:42 AM
#29
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No no no. It pops up FULLY under it's OWN power and starts to slide backwards about 1/4 of an inch and then STOPS SLIDING. Not popping up. It pops up perfectly!
If you look at the manual override bolt in the headliner and push the button, you can see that it is trying to slide back. It WILL NOT SLIDE BACK unless you manually crank it back about another inch, and then it will SLIDE BACK under it's own power freely, without any hesitations or anything. The motor is in perfect condition ,but something is keeping it from sliding it past that one little point. The strangeness of this all is that it WILL NOT slide back from that point, but it will slide forward from that point and close just fine. I'm thinking maybe one of the plastic things on the tracks is blocking it? What are some of those used for? I'll take pics of the plastic things I'm talking about and you can tell me if I actually need them...
If you look at the manual override bolt in the headliner and push the button, you can see that it is trying to slide back. It WILL NOT SLIDE BACK unless you manually crank it back about another inch, and then it will SLIDE BACK under it's own power freely, without any hesitations or anything. The motor is in perfect condition ,but something is keeping it from sliding it past that one little point. The strangeness of this all is that it WILL NOT slide back from that point, but it will slide forward from that point and close just fine. I'm thinking maybe one of the plastic things on the tracks is blocking it? What are some of those used for? I'll take pics of the plastic things I'm talking about and you can tell me if I actually need them...
05-06-06 | 09:33 PM
#30
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From: Cleveland, OH
sunroof help!
hey! i've been having the SAME exact problem with my sunroof as it seems most of u have had......for one on the drive side the lil arm lookin plastic piece that raisesthe sunroof off is snapped....but that i can jsut glue back together or something, but the main problem i notced is that the cable on driver side isnt even moving, on passenger side it moves, and u can tell it wants to slide back more.....now it can go to the up position(i have to push a littl) but has some hesitation when trying to go backwards....
So i took the whole sunroof out of car, started takin it apart by starting with taking off the motor, and i kinda got the rail thing off and all that ****, but i just cant figure out how to completley take it off....im like 90% sure the cable doesnt move cuz of all the black **** in there...so i wanna take it out of the copper pipe thing and just clean allll that **** out and im pretty sure it'll work, i just cant get to that point tho....how does the rail/cable/lifters and all that come off on the front side of sunroof??? i cant even like get to that! anybody please have any help....i know what im doing pretty much and know the problem but just need some minor assistance here...if anybody has any pics of takin apart that would help a lot too!
PLEASE HELP! ha...im trying to get this **** cleaned out so i can put back in car so i can drive car w/o worrying about it raining or anything! ha pm me at headbang33 or e-mail me at headbang33@yahoo.com or just reply here.
THANKS FOR ANY POSSIBLE HELP U CAN GIVE!
So i took the whole sunroof out of car, started takin it apart by starting with taking off the motor, and i kinda got the rail thing off and all that ****, but i just cant figure out how to completley take it off....im like 90% sure the cable doesnt move cuz of all the black **** in there...so i wanna take it out of the copper pipe thing and just clean allll that **** out and im pretty sure it'll work, i just cant get to that point tho....how does the rail/cable/lifters and all that come off on the front side of sunroof??? i cant even like get to that! anybody please have any help....i know what im doing pretty much and know the problem but just need some minor assistance here...if anybody has any pics of takin apart that would help a lot too!
PLEASE HELP! ha...im trying to get this **** cleaned out so i can put back in car so i can drive car w/o worrying about it raining or anything! ha pm me at headbang33 or e-mail me at headbang33@yahoo.com or just reply here.
THANKS FOR ANY POSSIBLE HELP U CAN GIVE!
05-07-06 | 01:52 AM
#32
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From: NYC/Stony Brook Univ.
Please help...
The motor runs like a champ...BUT the sunroof doesn't even move up or anything, I've tried manually cranking it too...nothing.
So, how does one go about opening or removing a sunroof that is no longer even connected to the motor anymore it seems?
Thanks
Jahan
The motor runs like a champ...BUT the sunroof doesn't even move up or anything, I've tried manually cranking it too...nothing.
So, how does one go about opening or removing a sunroof that is no longer even connected to the motor anymore it seems?
Thanks
Jahan
05-07-06 | 04:09 AM
#33
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hey dude...to go among getting ur **** to work with out the motor workin or on or whatever it is u sed...
just take down the whole sunroof out of car and work on it...its not hard ...just make sure ya dont break any of the clip things..good luck to ya!
just take down the whole sunroof out of car and work on it...its not hard ...just make sure ya dont break any of the clip things..good luck to ya!
05-07-06 | 11:26 AM
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is FSM factory service manual? as in a HAYNES manual.....cuz if so, then the answer is no...there's nothing at ALL in the HAYNES mazda rxl all models 86-91 about the SUNROOF...there SHOULD be! but i've looked through over n over n theres not....
maybe in a chassis and body book or somethin though?
maybe in a chassis and body book or somethin though?
05-07-06 | 12:11 PM
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Haynes is NOT the FSM.
http://www.teamfc3s.org/main/factory...88/14_BODY.pdf
Scroll to page 56, theres a breakdown of the parts, and the proper steps for removal and installation.
http://www.teamfc3s.org/main/factory...88/14_BODY.pdf
Scroll to page 56, theres a breakdown of the parts, and the proper steps for removal and installation.
05-07-06 | 07:51 PM
#37
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From: Cleveland, OH
hey thanks man! the FSM for the sunroof brought up a good grid of the sunroof assembly...still doesnt really help tho.......
now im thinking one of my cables just needs to be replaed or something....
cuz i got both sides apart...and on passenger side i can push the cable in and out of the pipe housing thing....but when i try n do that with driver side it dont even move...
so i cant even like push the cable in the pipe thing...which of course would make sense why my driver side of sunroof doesnt go up.....any ideas anybody???
i hope i dont need a whole new cable....but thinkin thats what it mite come down to. shouldnt the cable be able to completly come right out of that pipe housing so that i can clean inside of it?? cuz i cant figure out how to get it out....
now im thinking one of my cables just needs to be replaed or something....
cuz i got both sides apart...and on passenger side i can push the cable in and out of the pipe housing thing....but when i try n do that with driver side it dont even move...
so i cant even like push the cable in the pipe thing...which of course would make sense why my driver side of sunroof doesnt go up.....any ideas anybody???
i hope i dont need a whole new cable....but thinkin thats what it mite come down to. shouldnt the cable be able to completly come right out of that pipe housing so that i can clean inside of it?? cuz i cant figure out how to get it out....
11-25-06 | 03:45 PM
#38
i have a glass sunroof that needs to be put in another car. can i just take out the metal moonroof and replace it with the glass without having to take out the headliner?
03-15-07 | 05:45 PM
#41
Originally Posted by cluosborne
If you take apart the sunroof assembly, you will break one or both end links.
What now?
09-23-09 | 07:11 PM
#42
Hey guys, im having the same problem on my fc. i took it to a shop and they told me that the cable did in fact snap so one side will move back and then other wont move at all(even by pushing it) what i need to know is where can i buy just the cable by itself? i dont want to pay for another sunroof and pay 300+, some guy even told me 480 O_O
06-29-10 | 11:35 PM
#43
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From: Portland, Oregon
I'm going to need to do this as my sunroof needs help opening any closing. To be honest though, I would pay someone a few hundred bucks to not have to deal with it. I'm going to check into doing this now.
07-01-10 | 11:30 AM
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10-16-10 | 09:56 PM
#45
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From: Spanaway WA
Hello everyone I also seem to have this same sunroof problem / passenger side goes up but not
the drivers side. Ive stripped the headliner.lights. etc off the roof. so now its accessable to work
on but even with the manual drive it does the samething. Sounds to me (I listened to each side)
like the cables are moving on both sides. What now. Is there anyway to open it fully without
damaging the roof? What should i look for now??? thanks
the drivers side. Ive stripped the headliner.lights. etc off the roof. so now its accessable to work
on but even with the manual drive it does the samething. Sounds to me (I listened to each side)
like the cables are moving on both sides. What now. Is there anyway to open it fully without
damaging the roof? What should i look for now??? thanks
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