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Old 12-25-06, 10:18 PM
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reaching 250-300hp for a dd

Ok I have been searching around and found some of my answers, but I want to know some other things. Say if I find a TII around were I live, I plan on getting the motor rebuilt and street ported at rotaryresurrection.com. but who should I go to to get the wastegate ported and stock turbo rebuilt. I don't want to go bigger than 250. Also since I am trying to reach 250 to 300hp should I upgrade my fuel system and ignition. I live in alabama and we don't have emmisons test so all that stuff can go, and I want to keep the ac.

But what else should I get cause I don't want the motor to blowup on me trying to reach this goal. I already plan on updating my drivetrain, with clutch and stuff, and doing suspension, so the car can carry the new load of power. Also who sells a intercooler kit for a TII or do I have to custom fab a kit myself.

I think thats it if there is anything else I need to know please tell me thanks.

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Old 12-25-06, 10:33 PM
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you say you want a TII, TII's don't come twin turbo is that what your saying about the twins, if your talking about twin turbo then your looking for an fd. a 300whp dd TII has to have a standalone and all the bolt-ons to get maybe to 270-280whp on stock turbo, if you have an upgraded turbo it will easily pass the 300whp range. if you don't want standalone you can get a safc and upgrade your front turbo housing with a .60 a/r compressor, with a good tune with injectors all the bolt-ons you can get to 300whp but i wouldn't push it that much since you don't have anything to controll the ignition timing, i would let it on low boost 10-12psi not more but that's my .02 cents. this is on stock engine internals, if your doing a street port it's going to be more easy getting the numbers you want.

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Old 12-25-06, 10:45 PM
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Ok sorry about that I edited my post. Ok so if i get a street port, upgrade turbo, add intercooler, exhaust, upgrade fuel and inigtion system. I can reach 300 easy?

also what about ecu should I upgrade that also or am i safe with stock ecu.?
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Man, get an NA and do the "i gots me 190HP" thing! That's what I'm doing if i score a nice NA.
Old 12-25-06, 10:57 PM
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Dude n/a is in my mind but if i come across a turbo rx7 before the n/a i will be getting it, either way i will be happy just checking out my options thats all. I know the n/a will be cheaper tho.
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Originally Posted by wanganrunner7
Ok sorry about that I edited my post. Ok so if i get a street port, upgrade turbo, add intercooler, exhaust, upgrade fuel and inigtion system. I can reach 300 easy?

also what about ecu should I upgrade that also or am i safe with stock ecu.?
with a street port, upgraded turbo,exhaust, upgraded fuel system and getting a standalone, that should easily put you well over 300whp. with stock ecu your never gonna run that setup, that's why i said that you can get a standalone. standalone's are very pricey, you can also run that setup with a safc and an Rtek(i am not very familiar with the rtek so i cannot give you that much info) running a safc with that setup is ok but you cannot get the same hp with the safc, safc just controlls fuel so you cannot run much boost or you'll blow the engine due to not having anything to controll the ignition timing, a piece of advice, if your looking for 300whp or more get a standalone or your possibly goona end up blowing the engine.

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Old 12-25-06, 11:16 PM
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aight thanks dude that helped out alot. yea i checked out the greddy standalones and wow them things are pricy, i am glad I don't have a dead line on this car lol.
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if you are looking for 200 -250 whp and dont want to go standalone and a upgraded turbo
get this set up
rtek 1.7
750cc injectors
street port
bnr stage 1 rebuild
now go have fun tear it up, dont worry about the wastegate most people on this forum are always talking about wastegate this wastegate that, you are not creating that much power to even affect you to an extent that it will blow your motor, yes you will have boost creep but i take you want this as a daily if thats your car in the sig,
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if u r looking for turbo rebuilt and port, B&R He's in Bham area. C
here's a link http://www.bnrturbos.com/

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thanks el nene thats that was some good information, what about a intercooler i saw a intercooler kit on greddys websit, and i don't need 300 200-250 will be enough for me especially for a dd, and smoke a few cars around town. but that ain't the car in my sig, that is the car that made me want to purchase one tho lol.

and loofee does this guy has a website, how much would it cost me to get a rebuild and streetport.
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look in my post .....i gave u the link. C
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thanks man it wasn't there when i posted then i went back and saw it their. good lookin out.
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dude you can do 250rwhp on stock turbo and stock intercooler (it'll heatsoak pretty quick though) with an SAFC, fuel pump, and 720 secondary injectors. Just do a major port job on the wastegate.

It's difficult to run a front mount without pulling out street car stuff like washer bottle and A/C.
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well been doing some research forund some good prices, i will have rotaryresurrection do all the engine stuff. bnr for my turbo, and for exhaust and other products i found this website called www.speedmachineperformance.com

so here is what i got.

Rebuilt block
street port
3mm seal upgrade
720 injectors.
stage 1 turbo
greddy intercooler kit
Rtek 1.7

well i am tired so i am off to bed i guess.
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3mm apex seals are a waste 2mm are actually better

the bigger the better is just old age thinking from the older rotaries in the 70's and such
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im going to go with bnr also when i swap in my engine.. the streetport is a good idea too.. if you want some fuel and ignition control rtek2.0 is inexpensive and will do the job as far as engine management if you have an S4 that is...it also come programmed to adapt to 720s with the checking of a box on your pda.. its simple and effective especially if youre going for the 250 range.. no need for 3mm seals... my 2cents
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Originally Posted by wanganrunner7
well been doing some research forund some good prices, i will have rotaryresurrection do all the engine stuff. bnr for my turbo, and for exhaust and other products i found this website called www.speedmachineperformance.com

so here is what i got.

Rebuilt block
street port
3mm seal upgrade
720 injectors.
stage 1 turbo
greddy intercooler kit
Rtek 1.7

well i am tired so i am off to bed i guess.
250-300 wheel eh? Thats easier then you think..

You dont need a street port, or a rebuild for that matter, unless your engine is flat worn out. I did 437 RWHP on a used $1200 Mazda reman.

3mm seals? Oh hell no.. You do NOT need that crap. I just made 490 on my new motor, and that was on Factory 2mm seals.

the rest looks pretty good.
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aight thanks so cancel the 3mm seals, well thats 400 bucks off my budget. since i am getting my turbo redone by bnr, what about exhaust, will the stock exhaust handle it or do i need to upgrade.
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You will need a DP/MP combo to eliminate the cats. The rest should flow to 300 or so HP. Just in case though, add a RB cat back to the mix...
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Not to thread jack or anything, im sorta doing the same thing, s4 TII, stock rebuild, rtek 1.7 full exhaust and intake, 720cc secondaries, and all the other odds and ends, Im using the stock s4 turbo and tmic, what kinda psi can i push out of it safely? Its a DD also...

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Originally Posted by J-Rat
250-300 wheel eh? Thats easier then you think..

You dont need a street port, or a rebuild for that matter, unless your engine is flat worn out. I did 437 RWHP on a used $1200 Mazda reman.

3mm seals? Oh hell no.. You do NOT need that crap. I just made 490 on my new motor, and that was on Factory 2mm seals.

the rest looks pretty good.

care to share what you have done to your car?? damn 490 whp is nice.. im lookin for about 500whp in my TII vert.
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Just go the simple route and get an rtek chip, injectors, i/c and upgraded turbo. that alone would get you 250ish hp and still be very daily drivable, and it would be a pretty cheap build
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Originally Posted by FrankV702
care to share what you have done to your car?? damn 490 whp is nice.. im lookin for about 500whp in my TII vert.
Ask gonzz...
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like FCking said rtek injectors and turbo and prolly exhaust too will get you to mid 200s and if you up it to rtek2 then you got fuel and ignition control in one package... pocketlogger.com... check it out bro
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well i put down 230 whp and 220 wtq on jus intake exhuast and piggyback ecu at 11 psi....this was still on stock fuel pump...stock injectors.....stock ports....stock intercooler.....stock turbo...with also almost 100,000 k on teh motor.....they dyno i used was Dynojet


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