Adam

haha DUDE i think your taking me to seriously. Im not really trying to be serious, ya know, Just BS ing,

Amur_

This is the internet. Put some smilies after your post or something so that they can tell that you're dicking around...

Adam

yeah i guess i need to do that more, thats a good point, thanks

patman

iTrader: (3)

lol oic

13btnos

iTrader: (1)

Hey I'm not trying to down play your intelligence or your schooling. All I'm stating is that there are somethings that can be learned outside of "school". I worked in my friends rotary speed shop for over 2years and can tell you I learned more there than anywhere else. I don't have a B.A., B.S. or a P.H.D. but hell I know how to build a 600rwhp rotary. Look I eat, sleep and **** rotarys that's all I know and that's all I care to know. I could care less about anything else if it pertains to my race car and rotary engines that's what I'm going to learn about. And I never said your school is bullshit. All I meant are theories are theories put them into action and see if they are proven or disproven.

jhammons01

^^^^ Well......that is what this discussion is all about. Don't you believe it would be a good thing to think things through b4 trying it???? Thinking things through and then discussing among knoweldgeable peers is how new things are developed. We talking about this in front of 200 sets of eyes (that can chime in at any moment) I am sure that not one person can see all the different angles that 200 sets of eyes can see. When the other angles are examined......openly...... we all benifit

My beef is only with those that attack the discussion for taking place and attack those that are posting in the discussion. Some attack the persons background or use of language that that poster use. (and, There are a lot that use horrible language/grammer/spelling/slang....sup) All that **** doesn't matter or help. Take the follwing for example:

"So he is a physics Expert, But works on cars in the back yard? Somthing does not sound right.. ( back yard mechanic) like me but i dont know much about Physics. I just take things apart and put them back together."

Adam, attacks who I am rather than the argument. Actually his input about the subject of using the water to clean carbin is........absent......not unlike his brain. I have no idea what others do during the day to earn money. I only know what they tell me and I have no reason to doubt what they tell me is the truth. What I do during the day for money has nothing to do with what I do as a hobby. But add it up, physics is just the study of physical properties of what you see everyday. Physics includes the study of Mechanica/electrical/chemical Engineering. Not the vocation of, rather, the theory of those vocations. Why would a person that is interested in engineering have any interest in cars???? And why would a motor head fall into the school of engineering??? Why would a person with a mechanical aptitude even bother with engineering?? If you can't put those toegether then you really need step away from the RX7 and get back to high school cause your not going to pass your GED

Funny during this 7 page thread I seem to be on the un-popular side of the debate and even thoough I have conceded that I may be wrong and I am willing to learn something new, people still attack me personally. During the whole debate I only said things like "I don't think it works and here's why....." I never said things like "This won't work and your all a bunch of ideots and heres why your ideots......" Never attacked anybody, just stated what I thought and gave examples or theory's.

I yearn and learn form those that attack the premis of the debate. Those that (here comes the cliche) "question the norm" provoke thought and learning. Don't ever come at me with "Thats the way its always been"(another cliche). That **** needs to stay under the rock where it came from. There is nothing better than a good healthy discussion with Kindred (RX7) spirits.

jhammons01

The more I think abou that sterotype the more I wonder why somebody thinks that Engineers aren't motor heads......where is the delineation??? I mean,,,,didn't most of you engineers apply to one of the auto manufacturers?? I know I did/do. Mazda USA is about 3 minutes from my house. Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, Land Rover/Range Rover, Kawasaki, Honda, Shimano all have offices right here in Irvine. I would love to work on something with those guys. The right job opportunity just has not arrisen for me.

And hell the offices here in Irvine are nothing compared to what is out in Detroit. I used to see clients in Detroit. Those offices for Ford were huge, absolutley huge. Tons of jobs for motorheads there......what...... I can't hear you in the back, speak up???? What, they want degreed people??? You mean more than a GED???
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Adam

Let it rest hammons. sheeesh. If im not mistaken your the one that told me i would Freeze up my rotors by injecting water, and its Not so!! so Just let it rest and go study some more, Im not saying your not smart, But I think you dont know much about rotaries,. Hell i dont know alot myself Just enough to get by so far, But i do know some facts,

jhammons01

(lauging)....OK

C-Murder

I'm thinking that if you use distilled water it would work a bunch better than tap water because you can super heat pure water; then when it hits impurities it will "explode" and turn into steam, maybe making it easier on your engine and produce a better cleaning effect. Someone who knows something back me up, I'm only 17 and in high school. I've done this before in a microwave. I left a cup in there with water, just heating it. Then I come back an hour later and heat it again because I want my tea, take the cup out, put a spoon in it and it "explodes". I'm thinking this would be better than putting normal tap water in the engine.

fcdrifter13

this stuff accually works thats really cool

Adam

you got a DAMN good point, ever watch that show on cable, where the two buddies blow things up and test theorys, i forgot the name of the show, Since i dont have cable,(one guy is named adam) BUT they took distilled water, Put it in the Microwave, let it warm up for 3 or 4 minutes, opened the microwave and is wasnt boiling, dropped a suger cube in and the water EXploded, Now that was Cool

C-Murder

Ya, haha, its called mythbusters, such a funny show. But I think I am going to distill some water and do that to my engine when I get my car back. Does someone want to try this before I do? I think it would be the best way to do it, maybe even elliminating or at leased reducing the need to hold the rpm at such a high level.

Amur_

I buy bottled de-mineralized water and use that.

Unless you're willing to chase after ultra-pure water

http://www.lenntech.com/deionised-de...ised-water.htm

you're going to have impurities no matter what you use. I choose de-mineralized when I can, and I see that as trying to choose the best from among limited options. Ultimately, scale build-up will never be an issue in your engine (unless you try to drown the poor thing like iceblue. )


And I have also used tap water, btw (when I couldn't get to the store. )

C-Murder

Well, I'm thinking that if I boil some water in the microwave like I do anyways, then feed it to my engnie, it should do the trick.I just have to make note of how long it takes to boil the first time, then warm it for that long again after it cools down, if it boils, it isn't pure enough yet.

Adam

thats the show, thank you, that is One cool *** show, among others, i need to get my direct tv turned back on dang it,

Amur_

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You're serious, aren't you?

C-Murder

Serious about what? putting water in my engine?

Adam

Heating it up in the microwave first? bad idea, once you drop the rubber hose in it , it could explode

RotaryEvolution

iTrader: (30)

exploding water is cool...


anyways, how did this thread evolve into this?

Amur_

misunderstood his reply - see new reply below.

Adam

to be honest i forgot, ill have to read thru this thing later, im to lazy right now

jhammons01

boiling water in the micro won't distill it, heating water doesn't distill it. The steam coming off and recondensing may be close Still lotsa impurities in there. Reverse osmosis.......oh I'm tired of this thread.

Amur_

Like Adam said, it will react with the hose. It won't then go on to react a second time with the inside surfaces of the engine. It's not like your microwaved water will be carried into the engine inside some mystical fictionless tube.

http://amasci.com/weird/microexp.html#coffee

Amur_

I also first thought that he meant that.


He's not trying to purify the water. He wants to get the water to where it will react with the insides of the engine. Thus his whole 'extra spiffy cleaning' idea.

But that won't work like he wants it to...