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Old 03-20-08, 07:07 PM
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Racingbeat over Pacesetter

How much power could you really gain going from a pacesetter to a RB?
anyone have any real numbers???
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Dude, you bump the thread after 9 minutes? WTF?

Anyway, the RB stuff is far superior to the Pace Setter garbage. Get it.
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that wasnt a bump, you cant bump in the 2nd gen specific thread....doesnt say you cant stump.

what the diff in between the two power wise, i already know PS is built like ****.
cause i wanna just get a header for now until i can afford a turbo motor so i can do a swap, yay...

my current motor has about 170000 on it so i dont wann dump hella money into it, but i wanna get a header while im driving it
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ok well paceseter it is..... does that bolt right to the main cat with the backpressure hose or what

and its gonna be like a year before i can afford a turbo motor so i want a header.
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Originally Posted by runscrappy_FC3S
ok well paceseter it is..... does that bolt right to the main cat with the backpressure hose or what

and its gonna be like a year before i can afford a turbo motor so i want a header.
That aircraft motor you have labeled rotary in your sig there looks a lot like a radial engine.
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And is pacesetter and racingbeat even a comparison????????????????/
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Originally Posted by dazed01
That aircraft motor you have labeled rotary in your sig there looks a lot like a radial engine.
Well if it's a really early radial where they bolted the crank to the plane and the prop to the engine, then it's a rotary, if it's the other way around then it's just a radial. They did this to get away with not needing an exhaust manifold and such(since they all exhausted at the same place and they just left it open).
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Nothing wrong with pacesetter, it works, it's cheap.
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my friend had a pacesetter muffler on his car and it started rusting a couple weeks later so we switched it out with a fart can!
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Originally Posted by turboIIrotary
my friend had a pacesetter muffler on his car and it started rusting a couple weeks later so we switched it out with a fart can!
It's made of cheap steel, just because it starts rusting doesnt mean theres going to be a hole in it anytime soon.
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Whats The Difference Between The Two (hp)
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Originally Posted by dazed01
That aircraft motor you have labeled rotary in your sig there looks a lot like a radial engine.
Yeah... saw that too! Rotary ones have the crankshaft bolted solidly to the frame of the aircraft, and the "block" / prop (which are bolted together) rotating.

Radial engines are simmilar, in the fact that they are positioned the same, but they are two different things. Read the WIKI article on non wankel rotary engines.
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Originally Posted by runscrappy_FC3S
Whats The Difference Between The Two (hp)
i know that the pacesetter doesnt have flanges that connects each piece together...well the ones ive seen they slide together and put a clamp on them or weld them.
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I said:

Originally Posted by runscrappy_FC3S
Well if it's a really early radial where they bolted the crank to the plane and the prop to the engine, then it's a rotary, if it's the other way around then it's just a radial. They did this to get away with not needing an exhaust manifold and such(since they all exhausted at the same place and they just left it open).
Then you said:

Originally Posted by Asterisk
Yeah... saw that too! Rotary ones have the crankshaft bolted solidly to the frame of the aircraft, and the "block" / prop (which are bolted together) rotating.

Radial engines are simmilar, in the fact that they are positioned the same, but they are two different things. Read the WIKI article on non wankel rotary engines.
thanks for makin sure i was right

the one in my sig has an exhaust manifold

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Not much, hp wise, quality wise a lot. From what I understand most of the power comes from removing the two choking pre cats.
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ok well im only gonna be using it for like a year so i dont care about quality. thanks
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Originally Posted by turboIIrotary
i know that the pacesetter doesnt have flanges that connects each piece together...well the ones ive seen they slide together and put a clamp on them or weld them.
The old pacesetter I had, had flanges. It wasn't bad but didn't sound that great.
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buy my RB dual header.... $200 and its yours
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pacesetter is $150, comes as a single piece with a 2.5" exit. The most anyone would need for a stock NA unless they want something shiny or are building an its car.
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I vote RB. The pacesetter is very cheap, and does not fit on convertables. I doubt any HP difference.

Actually, as others stated above, the high horsepower gained through the exhaust is mostly contributed to the removal of the cats.
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Why does it not fit a convertible?
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Old 04-12-08, 11:29 AM
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Nice pic! I've ran a pacesetter header, it bolted right up. There is surface rust because of the cheap steel, but there are no holes and you can sand off the rust. I bought them used because I plan on a turbo swap too. Best bang for your buck!


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