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Old 01-08-09, 06:35 PM
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questions about a 4 lug

never dealt with having a base 4 lug model and i know the search button is efficient as well but this way is much easier...

4 lug rims are 14's right.. what is the 4 lug bolt pattern so i can get a set of 15's cause i have amazing tires right now and i don't really want to get rid of them

when it comes down to brakes and rotors where can i get a set of cross drilled and slotted

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this one really has nothing to do with body style but a t2 tranny should bolt up to a na motor right? aren't the motors the same exact side
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Fc's 4 lugs are 4x114.3

I can guarantee this because I have Nissan 280z wheels on my car.

Edit: If you want really cheap wheels for your 4 lug that are 15 in. Go to the junk yard and get a stock set of 240sx wheels.

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thanks man.


any idea where i can get a decent set of really light 15 inch 4 lug pattern wheels that don't belong to a honda owner?
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Not many hondas are 4x114.3 most are 4x100. If you want really light you would have to have some cashflow. I know that if you want decent light in that pattern and a decent offset buy some sportmax/xxr 002's. I have 14s on mine and they are 7 inches wide with a -10 offset, and the fit fairly well but stick out maybe an inch on stock front fenders. Most 002 style rims are 15/16 x8 with a 0 offset so they should fit fairly well.
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thanks man gonna go check them out... i just bought a 4 lug base model cause it's the lightest one i wanna keep it as light as i possible can and i know rims a couple of pounds heavier wont make much of a difference but if you think like that with one thing you think like that with everythign and wind up having an army tank kik
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checkedout some stuff. not to bad...


in terms of suspension.. i want something that's gonna grip when i want it too but also break loose to drift when i want it too
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Stance GR+. With that said you would have to save up like 1,000 dollars for a good used set. I personally don't have any experience with coilovers, but I know some stuff about them.
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Originally Posted by 88 Superfly
Stance GR+. With that said you would have to save up like 1,000 dollars for a good used set. I personally don't have any experience with coilovers, but I know some stuff about them.
yeah i don't really want anything fancy for the rims... i just want somthing that looks decent on a size 15 rim cause i'm going to sand them down and flat black them anyways
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Originally Posted by NaKing07
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this one really has nothing to do with body style but a t2 tranny should bolt up to a na motor right? aren't the motors the same exact side
Motors are the same size... flywheel is not.

To use the Turbo tranny on a non turbo car, you need to use the Turbo flywheel (with the correct counterweight for the series engine) and the Turbo starter, Turbo tranny brace/mount and the Turbo clutch slave and either a custom drive shaft or a Turbo drive shaft and Turbo rear end.
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DKwasheredx or whatever his name is is using an na rear end with a TII driveshaft. You just have to modify the holes in the driveshaft where the diff bolts up.

He did a write-up in the drifting section.
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Originally Posted by NoPistons!
DKwasheredx or whatever his name is is using an na rear end with a TII driveshaft. You just have to modify the holes in the driveshaft where the diff bolts up.

He did a write-up in the drifting section.
as covered in multiple threads today...

Using a Turbo drive shaft to a non turbo rear end, will require either changing the flange, drilling the flange or using a custom drive shaft.

Since this guy has not yet done enough searching and research to even see how to use a turbo transmission, the idea of telling him to change the differentials flange or drill the flange seemed a bit out of his league.

Kinda like if you can't search, you probably can't drill 4 perfectly balanced and offset holes, or set the pre-tension of the flange and pinion.
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Originally Posted by Icemark
Motors are the same size... flywheel is not.

To use the Turbo tranny on a non turbo car, you need to use the Turbo flywheel (with the correct counterweight for the series engine) and the Turbo starter, Turbo tranny brace/mount and the Turbo clutch slave and either a custom drive shaft or a Turbo drive shaft and Turbo rear end.
see this is where you're wrong about me.. i already have a 4.10 turbo 2 lsd rear in my vert hooked up to a na drive shaft

i know how to do the work lol... just wanted to know what i needed to make it work... since you listed i should be able to do it perfectly fine.. have 2 turbo 2 rears all i need is a turbo flywheel and a drive shaft the rest of the stuff i already have
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Where in ny are you located?

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all over the place man... ^^ my girl lives in staten island so i'm around there a lot i go to school in the city i stay in the bronx, hartsdale, carmel, mahopac, cold springs, portchester, and yonkers man.. always everywhere haha but my rx7s are located in carmel i leave them at my parents house when i'm not driving them
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what about you? and my name is john too haha
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Originally Posted by NaKing07
see this is where you're wrong about me.. i already have a 4.10 turbo 2 lsd rear in my vert hooked up to a na drive shaft

i know how to do the work lol... just wanted to know what i needed to make it work... since you listed i should be able to do it perfectly fine.. have 2 turbo 2 rears all i need is a turbo flywheel and a drive shaft the rest of the stuff i already have
so you are just unable to search then??? Or use the archive? Yet you can swap a rear end???
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45 minutes north on 87. Orange county. You should come out to our rotary meets at orange county choppers next year.

PM me any questions about that potential s4 t2 swap.

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Originally Posted by dawicka2
45 minutes north on 87. Orange county. You should come out to our rotary meets at orange county choppers next year.

PM me any questions about that potential s4 t2 swap.

John ny

haha orange county is like 20 mins outside of my parents house man not that far... i'm down to do whatever
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Originally Posted by Icemark
so you are just unable to search then??? Or use the archive? Yet you can swap a rear end???


you just might not know how to read or completely skipped the first post..


the one where i said "i know the search button is efficient, but this way is much easier"
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Originally Posted by NaKing07
you just might not know how to read or completely skipped the first post..


the one where i said "i know the search button is efficient, but this way is much easier"
Yeah, but then you have to take crap or look like you are lazy or don't know anything about cars
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Want to confirm

So you need to use a Front counterweight that goes with the flywheel? Im going to be putting a S4 n/a engine into my car that has a S4 T2 tranny so i need the T2 flywheel and the T2 front counterweight? Just making sure here. Thanks and sorry for jackin the thread.
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Originally Posted by 88 Superfly
Not many hondas are 4x114.3 most are 4x100. If you want really light you would have to have some cashflow. I know that if you want decent light in that pattern and a decent offset buy some sportmax/xxr 002's. I have 14s on mine and they are 7 inches wide with a -10 offset, and the fit fairly well but stick out maybe an inch on stock front fenders. Most 002 style rims are 15/16 x8 with a 0 offset so they should fit fairly well.
XXR/Sportmax are HEAVY. At least in the rim sizes that I've seen and gotten "accurate" weights for. The 006's are 25 lbs per rim. A comparable 17x8 rims is ~ 18 lbs and that's not even "lite". So 25/18 = 138%, so you're saying that a rim that is 138% heavier is still decent lite? You should really get your **** strait before posting, mmmmkay?

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as covered in multiple threads today...

Using a Turbo drive shaft to a non turbo rear end, will require either changing the flange, drilling the flange or using a custom drive shaft.

Since this guy has not yet done enough searching and research to even see how to use a turbo transmission, the idea of telling him to change the differentials flange or drill the flange seemed a bit out of his league.

Kinda like if you can't search, you probably can't drill 4 perfectly balanced and offset holes, or set the pre-tension of the flange and pinion.
****, after everything that I've built and fabbed and cut and had lay dead nuts on, and owning a drill press, I wouldn't even drill the flange. I'd take it to a machine shop or buy a new flange. Think about the vibes that a slightly out of place driveshaft would create. The only way I would do it would be if the inner lips met perfectly allowing me to clamp the driveshaft and the pinion together perfectly centered and drill it out. Other than that, **** that noise.

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Yeah, but then you have to take crap or look like you are lazy or don't know anything about cars
Most kids are lazy and expect everything to be spoon fed to them
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Originally Posted by FelixIsGod29X
So you need to use a Front counterweight that goes with the flywheel? Im going to be putting a S4 n/a engine into my car that has a S4 T2 tranny so i need the T2 flywheel and the T2 front counterweight? Just making sure here. Thanks and sorry for jackin the thread.
Counterweights are matched to the series. S4 motor, S4 counterweight. There is no need to alter the front counterweight, only the rear and this is for aftermarket flywheels. Factory flywheels have the counterweight built into them. If your motor is S4 and your tranny TII, than you need a stock S4 TII flywheel or an S4 rear counterweight and the aftrmkt flywheel of your choice
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Originally Posted by Icemark
Yeah, but then you have to take crap or look like you are lazy or don't know anything about cars
nah i know i've just been really busy lately and i figured if i'd drop the thread and come back and look@ it a couple of days later it would have some kind of answers... and most of the time i just skip over flaming posts.. it's the internet.. talking **** is just pointless
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Originally Posted by FelixIsGod29X
So you need to use a Front counterweight that goes with the flywheel? Im going to be putting a S4 n/a engine into my car that has a S4 T2 tranny so i need the T2 flywheel and the T2 front counterweight? Just making sure here. Thanks and sorry for jackin the thread.
don't worry about it man.. we could do all the answers in one thread instead of making two!




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