Problems with understeer
06-13-06, 06:23 PM
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this thread is pretty much pointless.
everybody
EVERYBODY
has a diff. driving technique you need to keep practicing and figure out what works best.
try using your brakes to transfer wheight. try diff. suspension settings ect. ect.
no one has identical driving techniques.
everybody
EVERYBODY
has a diff. driving technique you need to keep practicing and figure out what works best.
try using your brakes to transfer wheight. try diff. suspension settings ect. ect.
no one has identical driving techniques.
06-13-06, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RE_GTUs
this thread is pretty much pointless.
everybody
EVERYBODY
has a diff. driving technique you need to keep practicing and figure out what works best.
try using your brakes to transfer wheight. try diff. suspension settings ect. ect.
no one has identical driving techniques.
everybody
EVERYBODY
has a diff. driving technique you need to keep practicing and figure out what works best.
try using your brakes to transfer wheight. try diff. suspension settings ect. ect.
no one has identical driving techniques.
!!AGREED!!
but, i dont agree with throwing it in 1st at 45mph....
06-13-06, 06:38 PM
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i don't see where you were part of the conversation? if you don't like it don't post. i'm sorry i'm not here to be censored, it's not like we're flaming or trolling or harping on someone, we're talking this through
06-13-06, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by VacavilleFC
i don't see where you were part of the conversation? if you don't like it don't post. i'm sorry i'm not here to be censored, it's not like we're flaming or trolling or harping on someone, we're talking this through
I agree with you too lol!! I was mainly agreeing with RE_GTUs opinion on how everyone drives different with their own different techniques!! For example, I drift with one slipper on for the gas and barefoot for the clutch hahah...its an odd combo but it works for me!!
06-13-06, 06:49 PM
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back on topic though,
seeing as he has some nice tires, i'm gonna assume his suspension isn't keeping his weight distributed properly. you can only drift as well as the car can handle it, even the drift king keiichi himself would have major problems in an unproperly setup car. he even said himself that suspension and brakes are the most important.
seeing as he has some nice tires, i'm gonna assume his suspension isn't keeping his weight distributed properly. you can only drift as well as the car can handle it, even the drift king keiichi himself would have major problems in an unproperly setup car. he even said himself that suspension and brakes are the most important.
Which is much needed for my Vert.
06-13-06, 07:09 PM
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I personally drive barefoot when I really "drive"
and if you really think you can correct understeer by reading something off the internet you are a n00b.
I also have a problem with understeer in certain conditions, but alot of that is my driving style. I cause the understeer, its all in how you drive.
reading how someone else does it will not fix your problems,
I am just speaking from experiance.
anybody who really knows anything will tell you it all leads up to seat time.
sure they can give you some basic ideas, but it all boils down to how you drive.
that is all.
and if you really think you can correct understeer by reading something off the internet you are a n00b.
I also have a problem with understeer in certain conditions, but alot of that is my driving style. I cause the understeer, its all in how you drive.
reading how someone else does it will not fix your problems,
I am just speaking from experiance.
anybody who really knows anything will tell you it all leads up to seat time.
sure they can give you some basic ideas, but it all boils down to how you drive.
that is all.
06-13-06, 07:15 PM
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well for a "noob" its nice to hear how other people fix their understeer. We were all once noob's and im sure you had plenty of question on what to do, unless you were just a pro at your first drift. Giving him our opinion's opens his variety to try things and maybe he will take a little peice of all our information and fix his problem!! seat time is very important, but whats the point of seat time if you dont know where to start, thats just how people wreck their car and get hurt!! all we are trying to do is give him our answers to how we fix OUR countersteering problems...cause thats what he's asking us...
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06-13-06, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Made_Man
I wear 13-14 shoes and can heel toe - it's more like side of the foot-toe though. It works fine for me.
This link has a list of things you can do to correct excessive oversteer or understeer in terms of car setup.
06-14-06, 01:14 AM
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driving barefoot is seems to give so much more control over the throttle and gas, and is it possible the back end isnt sliding due to the dtss. this seems to be my problem, and ive been practicing heel toe do to the lack of an e-brake.
http://www.mmr-direct.com/
and
http://www.secretelement.com/newparts.html
sell dtss eliminators. I'm ordering mine friday in hopes they help a bit.
good luck drifting that fc.
http://www.mmr-direct.com/
and
http://www.secretelement.com/newparts.html
sell dtss eliminators. I'm ordering mine friday in hopes they help a bit.
good luck drifting that fc.
06-14-06, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sodara
hahah, i drive best when i'm bare-footed. alot of those racing shoes are skin tight...
06-14-06, 07:45 PM
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I could help if you wanted to reduce understeer during hard cornering, which could be dangerous........then I saw it was for drifting, which is retarded.....so My advice is to check, and replace old worn out suspension components.
I only have "drifted" when it rains because that is the only time my 7 should get sideways.....drifting for anything else besides an emergency situation is
IMHO....have fun and keep it on the track unless you're looking for the next DARWIN award.
I only have "drifted" when it rains because that is the only time my 7 should get sideways.....drifting for anything else besides an emergency situation is
IMHO....have fun and keep it on the track unless you're looking for the next DARWIN award.
06-14-06, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by eriksseven
F&F3 rocks the 2nd gen. tech section... 
06-14-06, 08:00 PM
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I started practicing drifting three or so years ago, so no F&F3 crap coming from here. I have a family so getting to events is hard for me. Also I'm not some Noob, this makes FC #3 for me. Previous FC's were built more for drag and not very street friendly. Now I have a cherry 91 w/AB package. Working with a limited budget I like to know what works and what doesn't so I don't waste money. It is best to learn from experience, and the experience of others is included. Thank you for the helpful suggestions. I know a lot of it is technique and I am working on that but also setup has a lot to do with it.
Kane
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I like drifting have been into it for a while. Why flame me for that. Some of you like track days, others like drag, and still others autocross. I do not flame you for that. This is what I choose to do so don't "flame" "retards" like me that ask specific questions. If I were 17 and the title of my thread was "I want to drift, whats the best coilovers" I could understand a good flaming. What I want to know is why does my car understeer so bad. Especially with bad DTSS. Now if I am not asking a sensible question please feel free to flame away at this retarded topic.
Kane
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I like drifting have been into it for a while. Why flame me for that. Some of you like track days, others like drag, and still others autocross. I do not flame you for that. This is what I choose to do so don't "flame" "retards" like me that ask specific questions. If I were 17 and the title of my thread was "I want to drift, whats the best coilovers" I could understand a good flaming. What I want to know is why does my car understeer so bad. Especially with bad DTSS. Now if I am not asking a sensible question please feel free to flame away at this retarded topic.
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06-14-06, 08:04 PM
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well, just to be fair, i think alot of us are not doing this because of F&F crap.... honestly its more like we like these things, THEN F&F go and destroy it for us....
the next thing u know, people will bash on Rotaries or japanese cars because of F&F....
though i do not want to see more dumb kids doing stupid **** and pretend to know cars/drifting, i say we should not bash EVERYONE who likes it, just be responsible....
the next thing u know, people will bash on Rotaries or japanese cars because of F&F....
though i do not want to see more dumb kids doing stupid **** and pretend to know cars/drifting, i say we should not bash EVERYONE who likes it, just be responsible....
06-14-06, 08:45 PM
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Have you maintained tire pressures on front and rear tires? Incorrect tire pressures can change handling characteristics severely. What type of tires are you running?
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06-14-06, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Madrx7racer
honestly....all the ex-honda ricers will begin to destroy 7's left and right.....I understand the need for teenagers to be retarded because Ive been there but I think kids are getting stupider and stupider these days.....i dunno what to do..the mods will continue to allow people to come ono this forum and propagate retarded fads by not allowing us to flame and ridicule these mindless fad followers and keeping the seven away from people that will destroy the few rotaries that are around us....I don't have to worry too much because I already have my TII and my fiancee's NA....all I need is a vert and they're not as popular among the drifting teen-aged idiots......if anything this will increase the value of MY cars but the Clueless FAD followers will make it hard for those true enthusiasts who want to buy a nice 7. I'm just glad I am not online as often anymore and I don't see most of the retarded threads that plague the 2nd gen section but it pises me of when I come on once in a blue moon and see retarded Threads.
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06-14-06, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MainstreaM
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I like drifting have been into it for a while. Why flame me for that. Some of you like track days, others like drag, and still others autocross. I do not flame you for that. This is what I choose to do so don't "flame" "retards" like me that ask specific questions. If I were 17 and the title of my thread was "I want to drift, whats the best coilovers" I could understand a good flaming.
I like drifting have been into it for a while. Why flame me for that. Some of you like track days, others like drag, and still others autocross. I do not flame you for that. This is what I choose to do so don't "flame" "retards" like me that ask specific questions. If I were 17 and the title of my thread was "I want to drift, whats the best coilovers" I could understand a good flaming.
