NGKTECH

Are your spark plugs coming out literally wet with fuel after cranking?

I am in the exact same position as you and when I removed my plugs after cranking (with EGI fuse in) they were literally wet fouled with fuel and small amounts of oil, but when smelling them all I can smell is the gasoline. I would imagine your plugs should be the same way if all is working correctly.

JSmith0101

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You do have all the fuses in, right?

Dltreezan

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ok dude. I have the same problem right now. This is what you need to do. I would crank my car and it would sound like it had great compression but I would pull the plugs and no fuel or anything on them. I tried all the deflood tricks but it was obvious that I was getting no fuel.

You need to try this. There is a connector near the passenger shock tower in the engine bay. You need to get a small wire and put two flat connectors on each end and stick one connector in each part of the open harness. With the key in the ignition you will hear the fuel pump system pressurize. I did this and then it started.

However with you cranking the car over and not hearing anything but a whine it sounds extremely flooded which sounds just like this when that happens.

Michaelangelofb

No not really. I have put oil in the leadings I would imagine a minimal amount of fuel very smal very very smal.. but mostly oil.

Yes

I thought this was a yellow connector on the driver side. What does this connector look like?

Texas_Ace

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It is the yellow plug. Jump that and the fuel pump should turn on. If not then take the airbox apart and move the AFM with your hand, that should alos kick the fule pump on.

If none of that works, then check the relay by the sterring colum. And then check the pump it's self. It is easy to get to, just take the screws in the truck acsess panel out and there it is.

Michaelangelofb

where is the fuel pump realy at and what does it look like? Engine bay? Behind the dash? I have an extra fuel pump so I un pluged the one in the car and plugged up the extra one and I got nothing when turnin it over it was like there was no power to it? it didnt turn on or nothing. PLEASE HELP

Texas_Ace

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I think i posted this at least twice already. The fuel pump relay is under the dash next tot eh steering colum. Looks like any other relay, has 4 wires going to it if i remmeber correctly. black relay and yellow base.

Michaelangelofb

cool thats a start

Michaelangelofb

got the relay in hand.. how do I know this is bad?

Texas_Ace

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Test it, first start by plugging it back in and then jumpping the yellow connector by the airbox, that will send power tot he relay to try to turn the fuel pump on.

Listen for a click fromt he relay, if you hear it then it is most likly good, if not then you need to test the relay by appling voltage to it and seeing if it clicks.

Michaelangelofb

checked the relay and it clicks so thats good. UGH now what lol

NGKTECH

Sorry to hijack the thread guys but

Is the fuel pump relay located under neath the dash? ie Is there a cover or anything that needs to be romoved or is it just inderneath there? Thanks

Should have a black base with a yellow bottom?

Texas_Ace

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Just under the dash, lay down in the floor board and look up near the steering colum. Just to the left should be the relay.

It is mounted upsidedown. Yellow will be on top and the black on bottom. Pretty hard to miss though.

Killert2

I know alot of people hate doing this but u can try putting some atf( automatic transmission Fluid) in bothe othe the lower spark plugs holes.Put spark plugs back on Take out the fuse for the injectors and turn it for a while then put fuse back in and see if it starts.

Michaelangelofb

I am still tinkering with this.
Pull started it and seemed fine just wouldnt start/idle. no abnormal noises or metal to metal contact. still thinking fuel is the issue here...

na5

hey mike are there any random switches in the car that you don't know waht they are for

na5

if you find some the po might have put a fuel cut off switch anf forgot about it my roomate has the same thing and even hes forgotten about it at times if you do find the switch flip and check for power at your pump with key to on


another thing to check is pull the fuel line before the filter maybe clogged filter?

Michaelangelofb

good call dude never thought of that..

Rotary bbq during the spring time btw.

LOL

Magpie57

My 86 wouldnt start after going into a store so I walked across the street and bought a can of ether and sprayed it into the air cleaner. Not alot. After the second try I held the pedal to the floor and it started chugging a bit. A touch more ether and she cranked and came to life. Like he said, put the pedal to the floor to get as much air to flow through as possible. LOL

Michaelangelofb

Ether? hmmm when I was in the military the told us to never use ether EVER.. Said it does a lot of damage...