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Old 08-17-09, 03:13 PM
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Price Check: Low Mileage 90 TII

Just wondering how much you would pay for a low mileage 1990 TII? I'm talking about 45,000 miles completely stock, with working A/C almost like it came straight from the dealership.

9k? 10k?? Have these cars reached classic status as of yet?
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i would say it would go for $8k max if its bone stock and in mint condition. hard to tell without pics.
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$8k seems about a realistic price that people might actually pay, it could go for more but it would take coming across that one single dude who has the money and the desire for the car.

to me color is a biggie.
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Is it a Canadian car? I wouldn't pay that much. I bought my 88 t2 with 50K miles for $4,500 .... very little rust. Though the paint was not perfect, the interior was mint and the car was stock save for the s5 turbo "upgrade." Oh yeah, cold A/C, P/S, aftermarket (not great) rims, and some additional extras. If t2s are going for $8k in Canada, then you're one lucky sob.
I would guess, without seeing the car, you could get somewhere between $5k and $7k depending on desirability like Rob said.
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^did you buy that car in Houston? It sure sounds familiar.
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a car that looks like it came right from the dealership seems to be worth more then a car that does not have perfect paint and is a S4, my opinion is a perfect factory paint job adds $2000 to the value of the car.
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The car would need to be in near perfect condition to fetch $8K, and even then it would be difficult to find somebody who is actually willing to pay that kind of money for such an old car that has no collector value. It would easily fetch $5K, so I would guess somewhere between $5-8K, depending on how long you are willing to wait for a buyer.

The definition of a classic car is determined by individual US states as opposed to a US or international standard, so you would need to check with your own government on that one. My state of Missouri does not offer "Classic" registration status, but does offer "Historic" - 25 years old, and "Street Rod" - made in 1948 or earlier.
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historic status does squat here except give you a one year reggie instead of a 2
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S5 TII's are hard to come by now and days, especially stock and "mint" condition. Post some pictures!
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you also cant ask these guys, we dont want to pay for spit.

I have sold S4 verts for close to $5000 , try doing that on here!
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Originally Posted by Rob XX 7
historic status does squat here except give you a one year reggie instead of a 2
If we can find an old Missouri license plate dated the same as the car, then we can register to use it as long as there is no conflict with the letter/number combo. Trivial, but still kinda neat.

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you also cant ask these guys, we dont want to pay for spit.

I have sold S4 verts for close to $5000 , try doing that on here!
That's because we pretty much know what RX-7s are worth. You need to go to Ebay or craigslist to find the real idiots.

Also, the OP asked "how much you would pay", not "how much would an idiot pay".
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heh heh, in texas when a car reaches "classic" status (25 yrs) we can so bye bye to emissions inspections

and helloooo to higher insurance premiums
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I Picked up my 91' Turbo for $5,000. 81,000 miles very little rust. Factory paint is decent, A/C doesn't work on line has a hole in it and the clutch is weak. Interior is nice, leather seats were replaced with black cloth. Has a 3" turboback exhaust, passes emisions and runs premix. O.M.P. has been deleted and it has an Rtek 1.5.

I'd say around $6000-7000 is fair for a real nice low miles 90' Turbo.
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Better than asking what it's worth, ask people what they sold their comparable car for. That gives you real market value versus fantasy value.
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Originally Posted by gsxranger
Better than asking what it's worth, ask people what they sold their comparable car for. That gives you real market value versus fantasy value.
Excellent advice, but this may be easier said than done. There are definitely regional variations in value. For example, a pristine rust-free Turbo will be harder to find in Canada than in Southern California. How many super-low mileage, rust-free, mint condition Turbos have sold in your area in the past year? Probably not that many, so getting an accurate picture of the value is challenging. That's not to say that info on comparable cars from other parts of North America is worthless.

If you're looking to buy, remind the seller there isn't a collector market yet for these cars, which is true. If you're selling, remind the buyer that finding an unmolested mint S5 Turbo is almost impossible these days.

I'd say if the car is really rust free with good original paint and everything is working, $8000 isn't crazy, but it's on the higher side of what is possible.

Incidentally, the concept of "classic" status has about as many definitions as the word "love." The Classic Car Club of America maintains a list of cars built before 1959 that qualify, but not all do. The Antique Automobile Club of America says anything over 25 years old is a "classic." As noted above, some U.S. States offer classic status vehicle registration, but this also varies widely.
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In 2004 I bought my 87 TII for about 6.5 k. The first owner sold it to a Mazda dealership where it sat for nearly 10 years. It was cared for by their mechanic before I bought it with 55,xxx miles on the odometer.

If that 90 TII still smells like "factory new" I would pay no more than 8 k.

There are other used sport cars I can think of buying that are beyond 8 k...
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tbh up here in Canada if someone have 8k to paid for a FC and assuming he/she is very desired for a rotary... they will just save up abit more and put in another 3k-4k for a FD.

unleast as mentioned above the buyer is really into getting a FC for whatever his/her reason..

and don't forget what kind of economy we are in right now.

also you are in Ontario, emission is also another issue for S5... unless you know the place with another stock FC sitting there

offtopic..

The defination of being classic is just a group of people who desire so much for certain cars and name them as classic, whatever government or club has no right to define the so call "LIST" if you ask me... is just like how a 50 years old guy from US would call his cuda a classic and i will call my FC a classic and my dad would call a mini cooper a classic ^^
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I dont know how many of you guys have seen $10k FDs, but they are usually a bit worn and close to needing a engine change.

Myabe its just me, but I dont think a car that has "decent" paint, or things that dont work, or swapped seats, or removed emissions- to be compatible to a stock car kept in a garage its whole life where everything works as it should, nothing has been swapped out or changed.

To me that car is worth a little bit more because I like my cars a certain way. Some people dont mind a worn carpet, or broken interior bits, they dont care if the bumper does not match the car or that the lenses are cracked or scratchy, they dont care if there are dings in the body, they dont care that switches dont work. Repainted body parts also take away value to me.
I care about these things and value my time trying to source out used items or buying new items from the dealer. So by the time you add up a car purchased for less and try to bring it up to the level of a near perfect factory car you would have spent the money one way or another.

so is it worth $7k-$8k+? yes, just not to most of us.
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color would raise price maybe if it is white or black or red you would get a lil bit more and condition of paint couonts for a lot too. the big thing that some ppl may not be thinking about on your car is the s5 turbo 2. find someone who wants a clean start for a big build or someone who wants a super clean one and you have potential. depending on canadian market and how your economy is doing lol 8k is reasonable. issues would be if your trying to find a buyer down here uhhh might be harder since shipping will need to be involved
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I would consider 8K. If it was mint, 1 owner and all the records, manuals, ect were intact and present. Also I would expect new tires, brakes, flawless factory paint, NO RUST, and no wear on the interior.

Color would be dependent too. Black or white 6k-8k Red- $5,000-$6,000.
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9k seems worth it. I just saw an s5 vert here in town go for $9500. This thing was literally mint though. 30k miles. Perfect in every way, sat in the showroom.

Plus people in here are cheap.

And stop comparing your shitty cars to a mint s5 t2 (with the exception of rob).

"Well I bought my s4 t2 with only a little rust and a few dents and dings and faded paint and hole in my exhaust with a busted tail light and burgundy interior with a leaking turbo for 5g, so naturally the mint s5 t2 should only sell for six"

You guys have to remember you are paying for a rarity which is this type of car in that good of condition.
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some people get it, some dont.

you cant sell ice to eskimoes!
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Just checked out the car. The Car is black.
Overall the body is about 7.5-8/10.

Minor surface rust specks developing on the sun roof and 1 speck near the wing. Under the hood seemed abit greasy but nothing major and the car had a broken antenna. Paint will need to be rebuffed cause the scratches and swirls show up big time againest the black paint. Probably a good $3000 to get the car's paint A-1 again.

What really killed the deal for me was the underbody. Surface rust to the rear arms, muffler and along the fins where the rocker panels meet the underbody. I don't know how you can restore the underbody but it would seem like a bitch to do so and cost atleast $2000-$3000 to get it moist black again.
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sounds like the price just went down to a few thousand.
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Originally Posted by CosmicButtHairs
Just wondering how much you would pay for a low mileage 1990 TII? I'm talking about 45,000 miles completely stock, with working A/C almost like it came straight from the dealership.

9k? 10k?? Have these cars reached classic status as of yet?
Originally Posted by CosmicButtHairs
Just checked out the car. The Car is black.
Overall the body is about 7.5-8/10.

Minor surface rust specks developing on the sun roof and 1 speck near the wing. Under the hood seemed abit greasy but nothing major and the car had a broken antenna. Paint will need to be rebuffed cause the scratches and swirls show up big time againest the black paint. Probably a good $3000 to get the car's paint A-1 again.

What really killed the deal for me was the underbody. Surface rust to the rear arms, muffler and along the fins where the rocker panels meet the underbody. I don't know how you can restore the underbody but it would seem like a bitch to do so and cost atleast $2000-$3000 to get it moist black again.

this sounds like 2 totally different cars!

now your in the $3000-$3500 range


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