Pre-Mix question?, wait!, this one is new.
04-27-04, 12:25 AM
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Re: Pre-Mix question?, wait!, this one is new.
Originally posted by sa22c_Drifter
I'm gonna start pre-mixing my S4. Now, on a two cycle engine, you're suppose to mix 2.6oz of two cycle oil for every gallon of gas. Is this the same for rotary or should I be running a different ratio?
I'm gonna start pre-mixing my S4. Now, on a two cycle engine, you're suppose to mix 2.6oz of two cycle oil for every gallon of gas. Is this the same for rotary or should I be running a different ratio?
04-27-04, 12:32 AM
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well I've already added it to my gas. I still will prefer a gradual break in since I have spent over 5k on the engine and would really like it to last.
I've driven a Ford ranger 4 cylinder for 6 months. I think I've learned patience.
I might tone it down though.
maybe use half of what I did this tank and then half of that next tank until I use the whole bottle.
I do drive 64 miles a day to work on the highway and I've known some one which blew their engine due to the OMP being bad. This is my way of testing to make sure it's good.
I've driven a Ford ranger 4 cylinder for 6 months. I think I've learned patience.
I might tone it down though.
maybe use half of what I did this tank and then half of that next tank until I use the whole bottle.
I do drive 64 miles a day to work on the highway and I've known some one which blew their engine due to the OMP being bad. This is my way of testing to make sure it's good.
04-27-04, 01:07 AM
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I too have thought about not running any premix at all on a fresh rebuild to break it in faster, but decided against it.
Mainly because it was just SOooo much easier to start with some premix in the tank (100:1)
Mainly because it was just SOooo much easier to start with some premix in the tank (100:1)
04-27-04, 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by sa22c_Drifter
Ok, what about those of us that DONT have rebuilds?. I just recently used MMO after reading the tons and tons of forum members that were using it, AND, had positive results. Now you're saying that MMO is bad?. What the **** man, im kinda pissed here lol.
Ok, what about those of us that DONT have rebuilds?. I just recently used MMO after reading the tons and tons of forum members that were using it, AND, had positive results. Now you're saying that MMO is bad?. What the **** man, im kinda pissed here lol.
04-27-04, 10:33 AM
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Ok then check out these dudes. If MMO is that bad for your oil, then by now all of these guy's engines have blown.
This is an exact quote:
"No negative long term effects when following directions.
MMO is a mixture of oil and petroleum distillates.
When mixed with gas, it will keep your injectors clean, helps reduce engine carbon, and acts like a premix lube.
When mixed with oil, it will keep engine internals and lubrication system clean.
Original MMO injection sometimes found at junkyards, yard sales, and ebay:
http://vwjudsonregister.tripod.com/oiler_page.htm"
And here's the thread.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...el+Mystery+Oil
This is an exact quote:
"No negative long term effects when following directions.
MMO is a mixture of oil and petroleum distillates.
When mixed with gas, it will keep your injectors clean, helps reduce engine carbon, and acts like a premix lube.
When mixed with oil, it will keep engine internals and lubrication system clean.
Original MMO injection sometimes found at junkyards, yard sales, and ebay:
http://vwjudsonregister.tripod.com/oiler_page.htm"
And here's the thread.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...el+Mystery+Oil
04-27-04, 10:35 AM
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Whatever...If the stuff was so good, why isn't it included with the oil from the manufactuer? Why do oil additives void the warrenty of the oil? Why have almost all indipendant lab tests confirmed that oil additives are simply snake oil?
04-27-04, 10:41 AM
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Bro, Aaron...I'm not trying to prove you wrong or anything dude. It's just that I read one thing, and then another.
Here's the thing. Since I added MMO to the oil, it accelerates and starts a lot better. Just like the guys in this thread said, that's the same results I've felt. Still haven't premixed with the gas yet, but in the oil there's definetly an improvement. Just my .02
Here's the thing. Since I added MMO to the oil, it accelerates and starts a lot better. Just like the guys in this thread said, that's the same results I've felt. Still haven't premixed with the gas yet, but in the oil there's definetly an improvement. Just my .02
04-27-04, 01:04 PM
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i might buy that mmo isnt hurting anything but i call BS if you are gona say it helps you accelerate better. the ONE time i put some mmo in my oil i actualy noticed harder starting and a worse idle. cleared up after i changed the oil.
04-27-04, 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by sa22c_Drifter
Here's the thing. Since I added MMO to the oil, it accelerates and starts a lot better. Just like the guys in this thread said, that's the same results I've felt. Still haven't premixed with the gas yet, but in the oil there's definetly an improvement. Just my .02
Here's the thing. Since I added MMO to the oil, it accelerates and starts a lot better. Just like the guys in this thread said, that's the same results I've felt. Still haven't premixed with the gas yet, but in the oil there's definetly an improvement. Just my .02
04-27-04, 10:28 PM
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O.K. guys, sorry to drag this back from the dead, but my FINAL thoughts on the MMO stuff:
1)its main ingredient is mineral spirits, which is an aromatic hydrocarbon, chemically related to paint thinner, toulene, acetone, methyl ethyl ketone, etc...these are all used mainly as SOLVENTS (we "play" with a lot of these on the aircraft during maintenance)
2)of course it's going to clean the oil system- it's a SOLVENT...problem is, it's displacing the lubricant on your rotor bearings, main bearings, etc while it's cleaning...that's what the detergents in the oil are for, anyway
3)no one has any idea if the rubber seals inside the engine can tolerate SOLVENTS for any length of time before losing their properties (solvents tend to swell some o-rings)
4)that's it guys, for now
1)its main ingredient is mineral spirits, which is an aromatic hydrocarbon, chemically related to paint thinner, toulene, acetone, methyl ethyl ketone, etc...these are all used mainly as SOLVENTS (we "play" with a lot of these on the aircraft during maintenance)
2)of course it's going to clean the oil system- it's a SOLVENT...problem is, it's displacing the lubricant on your rotor bearings, main bearings, etc while it's cleaning...that's what the detergents in the oil are for, anyway
3)no one has any idea if the rubber seals inside the engine can tolerate SOLVENTS for any length of time before losing their properties (solvents tend to swell some o-rings)
4)that's it guys, for now
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04-28-04, 01:02 AM
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........Ok, you know what. Im just going to change my oil tommorrow again and just use MMO in the gas.
By the way, is there another way to fight carbon in our engines other than taking them to a RX7 specialist who's gonna charge 1-2 thousands of dollars to take them apart and clean them?
If you do have an alternative please share it with all of us so we can enjoy our beautiful cars a bit longer.
By the way, is there another way to fight carbon in our engines other than taking them to a RX7 specialist who's gonna charge 1-2 thousands of dollars to take them apart and clean them?
If you do have an alternative please share it with all of us so we can enjoy our beautiful cars a bit longer.
04-29-04, 07:07 PM
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Or alternativly just give your car a damm good strap to redline everytime you get in it.
Repeat as often as you so choose until desired smile factor is achieved.
This a good way to get carbon out aswell.
Repeat as often as you so choose until desired smile factor is achieved.
This a good way to get carbon out aswell.
04-29-04, 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by sa22c_Drifter
That sounds good...but does that actually works?
That sounds good...but does that actually works?
They both work.
The water trick thingy would quite possibly clean it some more than just flogging your car to redline a few times.
what makes you think you have a huge ammount of carbon in there?
You most probably don´t need to worry about it.
04-29-04, 09:20 PM
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sorry for this question might sound dumb, but I dont understand what u guys are doing
adding oil to your gasoline??? for better lubrication
did I understand this right?
adding oil to your gasoline??? for better lubrication
did I understand this right?
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this might sound a little dumb, but I am not sure if I am understanding what u guys are doing
u are adding oil to your gasoline for better lubrication ??
is that right? if so why?
u are adding oil to your gasoline for better lubrication ??
is that right? if so why?
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