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Old 07-20-03, 01:38 PM
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Question Power steering...to remove or not to remove?

Ok, ive heard from a few guys that removing the power steering is a great way to reduce parasitic drag on the eccentric shaft and a good way to help your car loose some weight...problem. Ive heard from some people that if you remove the power steering pump that some of the gearing will be eaten up without the fluid that the pump usually sends to it. In this case you would be constantly replacing ****, and i dont want to have to do that. Is this true, or is it perfectly ok to remove and plug off the power steering?
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I haven't done it but I heard you have to leave a little fluid in there just in case.
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I did it and instead of capping the lines off like most people do, I looped the three lines together. Leaving the rack full of fluid will help keep the life on parts and seals. I love the feel of a car with a power steering rack when the pump has been removed.
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i also have done this, but left a little fluid in the rack and than capped the bolt holes.. it's been like this for about 6 months and i've had no problem's, also the feel of the steering is much improved, you'll only notice stiffness around parking-lots going under 5mph, and even in those situations it's still great, just a little more force to turn the wheel that's all

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"Do it you'll like it, also, the power steering rack has a faster ratio than the manual one, a full manual rack conversion is >crappy<"
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get that crap outta here
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nothing like using the main point of control in your car (the steering) for something completely NOT what it is designed for (aka manual operation).

Conclusion? Go full manual to do it the correct way.
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Originally posted by Relisys190


"Do it you'll like it, also, the power steering rack has a faster ratio than the manual one, a full manual rack conversion is >crappy<"
How is a full manual rack "crappy?"
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I'm not sure, but I'm wayyyyyy happier with my manual rack conversion on my gxl than when I removed the PS pump.
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well on my last FC i converted to a full Manual rack, the ratio is different, make's it a little to "quarky" for me.. it's a choice thing, a full manual rack is 'crappy' for me.. maybe not for some others

I have no power-steering... left the 'power' rack with some fluid and capped it off. works great for almost 6 months.

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Originally posted by Barwick
nothing like using the main point of control in your car (the steering) for something completely NOT what it is designed for (aka manual operation).

Huh?

The power steering rack is NOT used for steering? Could have fooled me. There is no problem removing the pump and tee'ing the lines, it works fine.
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Re: Power steering...to remove or not to remove?

Originally posted by Blue88GXL
Ive heard from some people that if you remove the power steering pump that some of the gearing will be eaten up without the fluid that the pump usually sends to it. In this case you would be constantly replacing ****, and i dont want to have to do that. Is this true, or is it perfectly ok to remove and plug off the power steering?
Replacing ****? What do u mean. The previous owner removed the ps on my car, looks like he just cut the lines and removed the pump. I don't know what else he did. What kind of problems could my car suffer from?
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none, it would take 5 years to screw the internals up.. just cap the lines to make sure no dirt/debries get in there.

-Markus

"I've had my lines capped for 6 months.. no prob yet"
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True, the PS rack has a shorter lock to lock radius but this equates to more rotational force at the steering wheel to turn the wheels the same amount in a shorter ratio.

I have a manual rack on mine and it turns really well, the feeling is excellent but when its under heavy load, you need to have a very firm grip of the wheel to control the feedback. Personally, I dont recommend it for those into drifting.
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