FoXX

im in australia.. so ive pretty much nearly never seen a trans am in action..

i know someone who is buying one.. apparantly a late model? anyone know how one of these would hold up against my TII?

dcamcoTII

well a 93-97 trans am which has the LT1 engine, Stock for Stock woulr prolly tear a TII a new one. 98 and newer would really tear ya a new one. anything pre 93 would be close. That is all stock for stock. Modded, it wouldnt take much to get close to an LT1 model, but an LS1 is way out there (have been known to run 12's bone stock). Hope that helped.

SuperchargedRex

It really depends on what model of Trans Am. If its even the base firebird, didn't that come with a V6 and automatic for a few years?

buttzGTU

the Trans Am was only offered with a V8... the base firebird does come with a V6...

a bone stock Trans Am runs about 285 hp for 93-97; 305 hp for 98-01... add ram air and you can get up to 335 with the SLP exhaust option...

They can easily be modded to 375+...

All in all pretty hard for a second gen to stay on top...

dcamcoTII

My T2 is about equal my friends new 3.8L V6 firebird. It has flowmaster exhaust, and i think 200 hp stock which is more than a t2. All I have to say is wait till i get my exhaust....muahahahah....!!!!!!!

RXTASY1

I raced a supercharged Firehawk with my TII (270 RWHP) and he killed me!
This was in the 1/4 and I was gaining on him in the end. I think if it was from a roll, I could have kept up with him.
He has a lot more HP than I do, but he is also a lot heavier.
Nothing beats V8's off the line.

TriangleMan

dude, that's not good. i raced a v6 camaro, which is the same engine and he barely pulled on me. you should be wasting those

FEDREX

I've had 2 runs with a couple of 93-97 285hp Z-28's and my car is faster than either of them. I tailed one from a light and after we were going about 20mph (I was still in 1st) it took off and I was ready. I kept right on it once my boost was built in 2nd and when I was midway into 3rd I was pulling. The other one was on the freeway...I had downshifted to 4th at about 90mph and was pulling easily in that gear and kept pulling in 5th.
If you're on a roll, they're not that big of a deal..just takes a little room. I also just waxed a new Mustang GT the other day - from about 70 to 120.

booosted

It all depends on what you have done to your car. My TII on a diet and a Haltech everything else stock beat a LT1 Firebird with a cam and exhaust plus who knows what else. I dont see why more people dont haltech their cars. It is the best mod to do.

dcamcoTII

How not good is that?? May be all about driver skill, and it may have been the weather. It was about 96 degrees and 100% humidity (how do fc's respond to heat???). Anyways, I ran a 15.6, and he was running only a little slower. Also, my car is BONE stock.

gigi

you sound like a bunch of kids

87jap951

Yep, you should get some mods! I know that just doing the exhaust & intake make a HUGE DIFF in the T2!
I drove a dates V6 Camaro auto, and it was soooo slow! and it was one of the newer ones that should have been 200 HP. I sure didn't feel it....YEP...ALL T?A's have V8's, except some eighties models one that was strong was the 89 V6 Turbo T/A!

RXTASY1

Thank you!
Flattery will get you everywhere!

PaulC

Ok My 87 NA will run 15.0 1/4 so anyT2 running that is running that time or more (ie 15.6) is sick and needs lots of tlc.
If a V6 Firebird/Camaro is running about that then its running the older 3.4 V6 and they only had 170 hp at the flywheel if they were lucky. The newer 3.8 is in the 98 and newer fbodies. And with nitrous a V6 can turn mid 13's in the 1/4 and hig 8's in the 1/8th
The slowest I have seen a stock LT1 run a 1/4 is 14.1 and 8.8 in the 8th. LS1's wa 13.6 1/4 and 8.6 in the 1/8th. The quickest was a 12.4 and a 7.4 1/8th. Ive seen 3rd gens not be that quick (but that might have been driver too). A T2 will be doing good with several mods to keep a stock LT/LS car with in a car length or two. If a T2 beats one either the T2 has tons and tons of mods and serious porting or the driver of the TA/Formula/Z28/SS (those are the V8 models) wasn't racing. A supercharged firehawk was probably running 450+ at the rear wheels and that is just rude.
Our cars are great against other smaller displacement engines like 3.5 liters and UNDER not big 5.7 liter LS cars (I will exclude Mustanks cause that 4.6 is a turd engine). The 3rd gens are better equipped for running with the big V8's but they are more delicate than ours (or so Im told).
And wanna know the worst of it???? A properly tuned LS1 can get up to 30 MPG on the hyway straight off the showroom floor with 270-280 RWHP. T2's were rated at 19mpg hwy NA's 21mpg and about 150RWHP. You guys in Cali aught to appreciate that sometimes paying over $2 a gallon.

dcamcoTII

so i have a sickly car?? regardless of the 100% humidity and the 96 degree temps?

dcamcoTII

From the showroom floor I have seen LS1 f-bodies pull 320 rwhp

PaulC

Yes I was down in Houston 2months ago and it was 94 and 90% humidity and I ran my best time ever at 15.0 in the 1/4. so yes something is wrong with your car if my NA is outrunning it.

BTW 100% humidity means its raining.

dcamcoTII

Wouldnt the heat affect a turbo car more?? because higher temperature air meand less dense air, and less dense air makes less boost right? And yes i realize that 100% means rain, but i was just exaggerating--anyways, it was the hottest day of the year thus far.

dcamcoTII

also, my friends slightly modded LT1 got a best run of 14.4, and my other friend w/ a somewhat heavily modded 89 Mustang only managed to pull a 13.3, he ran this same time on a similar day, and since then he has added a complete drag suspension w/ an airbag and all. So it wasn't just me getting poor times, altough i managed to get the worst of it, I just assumed it was because of the fact that my car has a turbo.

PaulC

Does sound like a sucky day to race. I was there literally right before the floods hit. I havent had time to race mine since then unfourtunatly so maybe I have more punch than I thought (doubt it). but according to GTech I have about 132rwhp the same GTech was with in 3hp on the owners car with a dyno.

Flamin' NOS

Dcamco, your TII should run 15.2 stock or so the figures say for our cars. Because your car is stock and as old as it is, it probably has clogged cats and with the stock ic on a hot day like that, the heat soak is unreal (put your hand on the damn thing and it's as hot as the rest of the engine). Those figures don't surprise me at all. On hot days like that, just park your car because driving it will just make you feel bad for even owning the thing. Then when it's nice and cool out, it makes all the difference in the world .
later
steve

rx7_ragtop

I run about 16.15 in my heavy convertible... you should be a LOT faster than that.

Brad

dcamcoTII

Thank you Flamin' for giving me a little more faith in my car. Thc ar has only 63k miles, so i dunno that teh cats are clogged. But it dosent reall matter because I have a turbo back RB in the mail. I am hoping to pull a low 14--that sound about right?

PaulC

You should be able to hit low to mid 14's with out much trouble with a new exhaust

I need to find either a NA turbo kit or a T2 doner car strip the interior drop anything that adds wieght and slows it down ..... damn might as well do a frame off rebuild now