View Poll Results: What electric cooling fan do you reccommend?
Black Magic
56
31.11%
Perma Cool
28
15.56%
That Thing They Sell At Pep Boys
11
6.11%
Junkyard Fan From A Fiero V6
48
26.67%
Who Needs A Fan, I Live In Alaska!
10
5.56%
Other
27
15.00%
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Poll: Electric Fans
02-19-02, 01:10 AM
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pardon my ignorance 
, but w/ respect to the Perma Cool fan...
Who makes it?
Where can i get it?
How much?
Why don't I have one yet (hehe)
Thanks!,
Manolis
, but w/ respect to the Perma Cool fan...Who makes it?
Where can i get it?
How much?
Why don't I have one yet (hehe
)Thanks!,
Manolis
02-19-02, 04:22 PM
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perma cool
what size? are you guys that are using the aftermaket electric fans using a shrowd (sp?) also r ther ne wireing kits that i would need to install?
02-19-02, 04:30 PM
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I have the 14" fingerchopper (Perma-cool) and have not had a single problem with it. I live on the coast of Georgia, and we have very hot summers, like 95 degrees and 80% humidity for most of the summer. Not a single time did my temp guage move from its normal position in stop and go traffic for an hour sometimes in that weather. And I have the stock radiator.
Its loud, and I have it on a temp switch only, so it stays on until the water cools off in the rad. People always ask me if I left my car running for a reason
Its loud, and I have it on a temp switch only, so it stays on until the water cools off in the rad. People always ask me if I left my car running for a reason
02-19-02, 05:13 PM
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My e-fan experience:
My '86-'88 70 amp alternator would not chrage the battery with the e-fan and a/c. It is a 14 amp Black Magic fan.
My '89-'91 80 amp alternator would charge enough but, the alternator didn't last long.
My '93+ 100 amp alternator has been just fine as far as charging the battery.
My coolant temps went up by about 15° with the e-fan.
My coolant temps are still up by about 10° with the e-fan and the Fluidyne radiator.
During warm months(9 months here) I drive in the city with the a/c running ALL of the time. I NEVER roll down a window except to get a burger.
My '86-'88 70 amp alternator would not chrage the battery with the e-fan and a/c. It is a 14 amp Black Magic fan.
My '89-'91 80 amp alternator would charge enough but, the alternator didn't last long.
My '93+ 100 amp alternator has been just fine as far as charging the battery.
My coolant temps went up by about 15° with the e-fan.
My coolant temps are still up by about 10° with the e-fan and the Fluidyne radiator.
During warm months(9 months here) I drive in the city with the a/c running ALL of the time. I NEVER roll down a window except to get a burger.
02-19-02, 07:35 PM
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i found a very pimp setup im about to run, just a little custom work to be done to fit the shroud in.
unorthodox racing Electric fan setup
unorthodox racing Electric fan setup
02-20-02, 05:39 AM
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One of the reasons I asked was because I planned to get the Perma Cool (9.5 amp 2950cfm) instead of the BM (13.9 amp 2800cfm) for obvious reasons. Making a shroud is not that hard for me (how does polished aluminum sound to you? helps light the engine bay...).
I keep trying to figure out why everyone like the BM - there must be a reason - maybe the shroud? (It's not THAT good a shroud, especially for $100.)
Anyway, I did do a search on electric fans, but most of the bajillion responses I got were 1st gen and 3rd gen, so I started this one up. I thought that the Fiero fan was a 1st gen thing - does anyone know how much current draw and cfm draw we're talking about here?
I keep trying to figure out why everyone like the BM - there must be a reason - maybe the shroud? (It's not THAT good a shroud, especially for $100.)
Anyway, I did do a search on electric fans, but most of the bajillion responses I got were 1st gen and 3rd gen, so I started this one up. I thought that the Fiero fan was a 1st gen thing - does anyone know how much current draw and cfm draw we're talking about here?
02-20-02, 09:58 AM
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Re: Re: where?
Worth noting: a Taurus fan was one of my other options.
Also worth noting: a rebuilt motor for a Fiero fan can be found at most auto parts stores for under $20. Try finding a rebuilt motor for the BM or similar...
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02-20-02, 10:15 AM
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Jeez, I just looked at that thread again, and I had to stop and figure out what the hell it was I was saying a couple times. Sorry I don't have any pictures. Again, if anyone has any questions, please feel free to e-mail me or reply to this post.
Damn, I remember those few posts taking forever to write...
Ren
Damn, I remember those few posts taking forever to write...
Ren
04-14-02, 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by Blake_AE
I just did a search for fiero electric fan and about 40 topics returned with anywhere between 5 and 80 replies. Do you remember which specific topic your write up was in? A link would be helpful.
I just did a search for fiero electric fan and about 40 topics returned with anywhere between 5 and 80 replies. Do you remember which specific topic your write up was in? A link would be helpful.
Originally posted by Merovign
Anyway, I did do a search on electric fans, but most of the bajillion responses I got were 1st gen and 3rd gen, so I started this one up.
Anyway, I did do a search on electric fans, but most of the bajillion responses I got were 1st gen and 3rd gen, so I started this one up.
04-14-02, 06:27 PM
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The key to any fan is the shroud a un scrouded fan will move a certain amount of air. but addinga schroud will dramaticly incress its performance. If you look all the manufaturers and race cars always have scrouds, and its not always for safty reasons mor offten than not its for perfomance in cooling.
04-16-02, 02:14 AM
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Tomorrow morning Im ordering my 16" Perma Cool finger chopper! flows plenty of air and looks nice...dont want my engine bay looking all junked up with cheapie stuff!
04-16-02, 11:10 AM
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i'm useing an mr2 dual fan turning together wireing for a dual would have been horendus, i like it good cooling i don't worry about the voltage or the battery dieing at all. i've had it for about 2 months now and never over heated.
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04-16-02, 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by BoostedRotors
no, they flow fine wothout one. and look dangerous!
no, they flow fine wothout one. and look dangerous!
04-17-02, 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by NZConvertible
Any fan will always pull more air through the radiator with a shroud. This is because the shroud stops air being pulled from the sides of the fan instead of through the core. Plus a shroud allows the fan to pull air through a larger area of the core.
Any fan will always pull more air through the radiator with a shroud. This is because the shroud stops air being pulled from the sides of the fan instead of through the core. Plus a shroud allows the fan to pull air through a larger area of the core.
theres an FC that puts down over 400 hp, and guess what? Perma Cool. Or how about Soul assassin, 500+ rwhp...wanna know what? Permacool again. So again I say...
Perma Cool will flow just FINE!
04-17-02, 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by BoostedRotors
He asked does he NEED one...which he DOESNT, regardless of what may seem logical or what people have read, the perma cool fan does a FINE job of cooling. Take my friends Bryans car (BNR Supercars)
theres an FC that puts down over 400 hp, and guess what? Perma Cool. Or how about Soul assassin, 500+ rwhp...wanna know what? Permacool again. So again I say...
Perma Cool will flow just FINE!
He asked does he NEED one...which he DOESNT, regardless of what may seem logical or what people have read, the perma cool fan does a FINE job of cooling. Take my friends Bryans car (BNR Supercars)
theres an FC that puts down over 400 hp, and guess what? Perma Cool. Or how about Soul assassin, 500+ rwhp...wanna know what? Permacool again. So again I say...
Perma Cool will flow just FINE!
Besides, at low speed and idle (when a fan is actually working), a 500hp engine requires as much cooling as a 100hp one, so your examples are irrelevant.