glorthu

I've searched and found nothing that seems to answer this particular question... How the heck to you get the inserts into the sleeves?!? The Pineapple website says to press it in using finger pressure only. The only way I can see to do that is by removing the rod in the end and sliding the insert down the length of the sleeve. I've tried pressing the rod out, but haven't pushed too hard since I don't want to wreck my sleeves.

If you have to press out the rods, which way do you press them? Towards the sleeve opening or the back of the sleeve?

PsYcLo

iTrader: (9)

You do have to push very hard, use a screwdriver and push on end. I had the same question when i got mine. be sure to use some high temp loctite to hold in the sleeves also.

glorthu

Okay, nevermind about which direction the rod has to be pushed out. Obviously one side is larger so it can only go one way.

But is removing the rod the proper thing to do?

glorthu

PsYcLo: Do you mean push hard on the insert to get it in through the opening or push hard on the rod to get it out?

Thanks!

Crionics

I believe with the opening facing the ground, use a punch to drive the pin out of the sleeve. The inserts just fall right in. Install is reverse of removal.

BTW, don't forget to tack or use some high-temp loctite, or you can have major problems.

glorthu

They're done. I borrowed a couple drops out of the 1/4 liter container of red loctite here at work. I hope they don't miss it...

Thanks for the help guys!

tri_tam

Thanks a bunch
after my search, this is the only one come up.
i just wanna add some more info to help update this thread.

to take the pin out.
put the sleeve with the open(for air follow) face up.
i've try with the open face down. the pin still stuck in there. so i install the pin back with the open face down (:

hope this clear things up
if need pic just pm me

Mr. Gadget

wrong loc-tite. You are to use green loc-tite, not red. also, per the pineapple site your to do another mod to the sleeve itself to pinch in the sleeve. Did you get directions when you bought the sleeves?

tri_tam

i really don't know who you're talking to buddy.
but pineappple said use green or red loc-tie.
http://www.pineappleracing.com/Prod-pr6pi.html
as for me i got a print out from pineapple pdf file.

oakback

When I called them, some guy told me to scratch up the mating surfaces, and use the loctite.

Mr. Gadget

Was responding to Glorthu and your first sentence smacks as being a smart ****, save that for someone else.

Do a search on the topic and you will see i am correct on the preference of green over red.

Your link clearly states exactly what I said, an additional process. I said pinch, they said ding - whats the deal?

My question on the instructions was also valid, read the existing threads. Many received the parts witout instructions only to loose theri motor. Should I clam up and not help the community?

Bottom line, everything I said was correct or a better recomondation than the oem specs in installation.

tri_tam

oh my bad

but like i said.
when i search this is the only come up.
no other green over red thread

maybe i don't know how search (-:

glorthu

Mr. Gadget:

Yes, I did the pinch as well. I had read that green was preferred, but since I was pinching the sleeve and red was "okay", I figured I'd use the red that I had rather than going out and buying some green.

And no, directions did not come with the sleeves when I bought them. I did, however, search the forums and read the instructions on the website.

Cheers!

mwpayne

For GOD'S SAKES, secure those puppies in!!
I had one new engine destroyed when one came loose..

oakback

If I used red, should I be ok? Or is it worth it for me to remove my UIM just to secure them by some other means?

glorthu

My inserts are secure. Pinching the sleeves (properly) should hold them very well , and the loctite basically just keeps them from vibrating. (disclaimer: wild-*** guess from an IMHO fairly qualified wild-*** guesser )

Gatlin: Red should be okay IF you pinched the sleeve as per the instructions on the web site. If not, it's probably worth it to redo them.

oakback

At the time that I installed them, I'm pretty sure there was no talk of "pinching" them, just "press them in by hand." That's when I called them, and they said to use the loctite. I guess I'll get around to removing that crap again to pinch the sleeves. Bahhh, that sucks. I've already had my intake parts off like 5 times. :P

briandrennon

are these things worth it? can you make them larger when you port the 6port motor

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (8)

I think PR's handling of the sleeve insert situation still SUCKS. At least they did put up instructions on their webpage, but that is still not any excuse for the lack of instructions with each and every order of inserts.

I'd think that at this point, with all the documentation of existing problems and lack of instruction, the next person to lose a motor on account of this would have ground for a liability issue with pineapple...but that's just my guess. OF course, it doesnt seem that they're worried about liability issues, with them ignoring their written warranties and all these days...

tri_tam

i really don't get it ppl
glorthu it's there a way for the sleeve to go throught the opening?
could you insert it WITHOUT taking of the pin?
i don't think it's possible for the sleeve to go over the opening and into engine.(after installed throught the pin)

are these ppl trying scare me or what?
or did i miss something important?

tri_tam

maybe i shouldn't have bring this thread back from the dead!!!!
grawwwwwww

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (8)

Go search for an old thread (of mine, when I went by hypntyz7) about pineapple sleeves. Youll; see the big controversy.

Basically, though the insert cannot come out and into the engine, it can slide back and forth, end to end, in the sleeve. After enough banging, it will break the rod at the end, and the ROD will go into the ENGINE. This has happened to 2-3 of us that I know of.

Due to PR's lack of support and instruction. That is problem enough, but what pisses me off the worst is that they continue to sell this **** and continue to not provide proper installation instructions. True, they have a writeup on their webpage, but that still shouldnt release them from the responsibility of accompanying each set of inserts with written instructions. People do, after all, still order things without internet access. OR perhaps the customer wouldnt know to look back onto their webpage for the proper instructions.

tri_tam

thanks for the clear up 'RotaryResurrection'

Mr. Gadget

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ight=pineapple


here is the oldie but goodie.

Tofuball

They told me over the phone what do do when I ordered them. :O

Nice guys