piggy back or stand alone!!!!..????
12-29-06, 06:03 PM
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piggy back or stand alone!!!!..????
just wanted to know yall's feedback...... i wanted to keep it streetable (emissions) just dont know if i should go standalone.. I WANT YOUR (THE PEOPLES) KNOWLEGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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how much power are you wanted out of your 7 and what are your mods.
IMHO standalone is a way better investment, just cause you can control ignition and many other features.
Piggy back is really only a good deal if you can get one for under a bill, and know how to use it...
it really depends on your needs
IMHO standalone is a way better investment, just cause you can control ignition and many other features.
Piggy back is really only a good deal if you can get one for under a bill, and know how to use it...
it really depends on your needs
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Standalone...guaranteed you go piggy back, there is no future for it.
I thought Id be fine witha piggy back...only to spend more money on a Power FC and lose money on the Fcon. Might as well go with the standalone since it has the ability to be used for future mods extreme or not.
I thought Id be fine witha piggy back...only to spend more money on a Power FC and lose money on the Fcon. Might as well go with the standalone since it has the ability to be used for future mods extreme or not.
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Standalones have a lot more wiring to take care of too. It depends on what you want from your car. NA or TII? Mod list? Stock? Need more info. You dont want to buy a haltech for a stock GXL.
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ok i have a tII basic mods i just got a tdo6 grex turbo and injectors i wanna push safely around 300-350. i know most of you would say go higher but i want to drive it every day! man my car still has a/c well i just want to know from you guys if i should go with the stand alone or not ........ OH big question will the stand alone effect my emmissions????? THANKS FOR THE INFO
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man now i got the a/c to worry about............... i cant use it.......... or can i??????? my fmic aint affecting it now do you guys think it will with the extra boost???
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well when i punch it 8-9 lb. but i drive it in low boost around 5-7 lb. just about stock boost .........well not now i want to keep the miles kinda low......... if you know what i mean..........
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12-31-06, 02:41 AM
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meh...I'd pull the AC if you wanna run a FMIC...
Essestially, you're upping your engine temps by blocking the radiator with yet another thing....
get rid of the AC, run your FMIC, build some ducting to route air to the radiator and you're good....
and run a standalone...
Essestially, you're upping your engine temps by blocking the radiator with yet another thing....
get rid of the AC, run your FMIC, build some ducting to route air to the radiator and you're good....
and run a standalone...
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well i said i have been using the fmic and i havent had problems yet i was planning to do a custom top mount when i put in the new turbo and injectors and now the STAND ALONE. also running a cryO2 to the top mount. so that i can keep the a/c
12-31-06, 09:57 AM
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The biggest advantages of a standalone are the ability to use a 3 bar MAP sensor and the ability to remove the airflow meter. From what you've posted, You do need one given what you are planning on doing.
But you are asking a LOT out of this car to keep emissions working fully and the A/C. You are going to have cooling problems with a front mount and A/C. Emissions and A/C on a standalone require a lot more wiring and tuning as well.
I think a lot of people fall into the trap of wanting to have their car do everything. You are going to have to make more compromises on an FC to get that kind of power reliably, unless you have a shitload of money, because well-spent money can solve almost any car problem.
But you are asking a LOT out of this car to keep emissions working fully and the A/C. You are going to have cooling problems with a front mount and A/C. Emissions and A/C on a standalone require a lot more wiring and tuning as well.
I think a lot of people fall into the trap of wanting to have their car do everything. You are going to have to make more compromises on an FC to get that kind of power reliably, unless you have a shitload of money, because well-spent money can solve almost any car problem.
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Originally Posted by ibekinq
ok i have a tII basic mods i just got a tdo6 grex turbo and injectors i wanna push safely around 300-350. i know most of you would say go higher but i want to drive it every day! man my car still has a/c well i just want to know from you guys if i should go with the stand alone or not ........ OH big question will the stand alone effect my emmissions????? THANKS FOR THE INFO
In this case I would almost say to use a piggyback like the S-AFC with the standard larger secondaries and fuel pump upgrade. It will be safe around 300HP without any real issues and you still maintain the tune of the stock ECU and you can leave your emissions equipment in tact.
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FMIC w/AC is a bad idea IMO.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
There's no reason you could not pass emissions with a standalone, but that will entirely depend on the quality of the tune. To do so means keeping a high-flow cat and finding a tuner who knows how to tune to keep a cat alive (many don't).
In this case I would almost say to use a piggyback like the S-AFC with the standard larger secondaries and fuel pump upgrade. It will be safe around 300HP without any real issues and you still maintain the tune of the stock ECU and you can leave your emissions equipment in tact.
In this case I would almost say to use a piggyback like the S-AFC with the standard larger secondaries and fuel pump upgrade. It will be safe around 300HP without any real issues and you still maintain the tune of the stock ECU and you can leave your emissions equipment in tact.
this is what i was thinking to use a e manage though.... but i still dont know why i couldnt use a custom v mount intercooler and still use a/c . i just want my hp to be around 300 or more. and that is easly atainable with little upgrades.
12-31-06, 07:50 PM
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no i wanted to go piggy back first. i was just saying thats what i was going to do. oh also the fmic i got one on. i was goin to do the top v mount after i install the new turbo. then im going to go with the stand alone.
