Which performance clutch should i buy?
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Which performance clutch should i buy?
I would like to have a mechanic put in a nice racing clutch in to my 1988 rx-7 fc. The car is driven everyday. Which clutch do you recommend I should use? What else do I need to get with that clutch?
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Well, what are your mods? If any. You should get something that doesn't put much or any extra pedal effort, unless you dont mind your left knee being twice as big as your right, as your car is daily driven.
I'm going with ACT 4puck unsprung with a heavy duty PP. for mine.
N/A vert with TII driveline... Soon to be turbo =D
Speaking about clutches, it's a Xmas gift to myself...
Where would be the best place to order a clutch?
I'm going with ACT 4puck unsprung with a heavy duty PP. for mine.
N/A vert with TII driveline... Soon to be turbo =D
Speaking about clutches, it's a Xmas gift to myself...
Where would be the best place to order a clutch?
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it all depends on what your setup. if you are stock, use a stock clutch. if you are lightly modified look at act xtreme or the street strip clutch. if you need more than that id go to some vareity of twin disc
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Yes, because everyone wants to look like a clutch newbie and a jackass at redlights.
I put together and drive a lot of setups. The way to go for clutch is ACT street strip. Unless your goals exceed 450rwhp or unless you do not plan to street drive the car. End of discussion.
As for flywheel I like the act streetlite (notice the trend here? streetcar, street clutch, street flywheel) ~12lb light steel, but there are those that run AL 9lb flywheels (aka act prolite) on the street and are fairly content. I am not one of them.
You can call that A1, because that's how it's done.
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Originally Posted by marK's
i hate the feeling of a stock clutch. 4 puck unsprung is the way to go if you want a stiffer pedal feel which, in my opinion, feels better then stock.
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The DISC is not going to control the pedal effort, the pressure plate does. The disc is what makes you look like an idiot bucking the car after overrevving it. Unsprung puck clutches are designed for race cars, sprung discs are designed for the street. Every driven a puck clutch?
Here's my advice - ACT lists the torque capacity of each of thier setups and they have many. Pick the one with the street disc that exceeds your torque/HP and be done. Especially if your car is bone stock or close to it - why use a grenade to kill an ant hill? If this is a street car and you've got more torque than an ACT disc can handle than you've already spent a ton of cash; spend more and buy a twin disc.
Here is quote that should appear in every clutch thread ever -
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i assumed that as you're buying a clutch, you're also buying a new pressure plate as a package. that's how i've always done it. and yes, i've driven a 3 puck sprung trd clutch and pressure plate and i loved the feeling.
learn to drive the car and you wont look like an idiot.
learn to drive the car and you wont look like an idiot.
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Would you like to try again without being completely wrong?
The DISC is not going to control the pedal effort, the pressure plate does. The disc is what makes you look like an idiot bucking the car after overrevving it. Unsprung puck clutches are designed for race cars, sprung discs are designed for the street. Every driven a puck clutch?
Here's my advice - ACT lists the torque capacity of each of thier setups and they have many. Pick the one with the street disc that exceeds your torque/HP and be done. Especially if your car is bone stock or close to it - why use a grenade to kill an ant hill? If this is a street car and you've got more torque than an ACT disc can handle than you've already spent a ton of cash; spend more and buy a twin disc.
Here is quote that should appear in every clutch thread ever -
![rofl](https://www.rx7club.com/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
The DISC is not going to control the pedal effort, the pressure plate does. The disc is what makes you look like an idiot bucking the car after overrevving it. Unsprung puck clutches are designed for race cars, sprung discs are designed for the street. Every driven a puck clutch?
Here's my advice - ACT lists the torque capacity of each of thier setups and they have many. Pick the one with the street disc that exceeds your torque/HP and be done. Especially if your car is bone stock or close to it - why use a grenade to kill an ant hill? If this is a street car and you've got more torque than an ACT disc can handle than you've already spent a ton of cash; spend more and buy a twin disc.
Here is quote that should appear in every clutch thread ever -
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I'm going with ACT 4puck unsprung with a heavy duty PP. for mine.
and it was a bitch to back our of a driveway uphill. Don't get any more clutch than you need.
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Originally Posted by arghx
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I'm going with ACT 4puck unsprung with a heavy duty PP. for mine.
I'm going with ACT 4puck unsprung with a heavy duty PP. for mine.
and it was a bitch to back our of a driveway uphill. Don't get any more clutch than you need.
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i assumed that as you're buying a clutch, you're also buying a new pressure plate as a package. that's how i've always done it. and yes, i've driven a 3 puck sprung trd clutch and pressure plate and i loved the feeling.
learn to drive the car and you wont look like an idiot.
learn to drive the car and you wont look like an idiot.
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Originally Posted by marK's
i hate the feeling of a stock clutch. 4 puck unsprung is the way to go if you want a stiffer pedal feel which, in my opinion, feels better then stock.
Not to mention this was a TRD clutch.... I'm going to assume for the time being that this was on a toyota motor which I dare say will produce more torque ~2,000 than a rotary once again making your opinions irrelavent. We're talking specifically about ACT clutches. Do you have experience with an ACT unsprung puck clutch on a rotary?
FWIW - I could have went the way of the ACT Extreme + street disc but I already had the extreme pp and didn't like it. I went the way of the exedy twin disc because I refuse to drive a puck, and I didn't want the extreme pp.
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Well, what are your mods? If any. You should get something that doesn't put much or any extra pedal effort, unless you dont mind your left knee being twice as big as your right, as your car is daily driven.
I'm going with ACT 4puck unsprung with a heavy duty PP. for mine.
N/A vert with TII driveline... Soon to be turbo =D
Speaking about clutches, it's a Xmas gift to myself...
Where would be the best place to order a clutch?
I'm going with ACT 4puck unsprung with a heavy duty PP. for mine.
N/A vert with TII driveline... Soon to be turbo =D
Speaking about clutches, it's a Xmas gift to myself...
Where would be the best place to order a clutch?
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What is a puck? How does it make it feel, and is it better performing than the ACT Street/Strip Clutch 86-91 RX-7 Non Turbo? The Street clutch is listed for $328. The 6 puck is $310 and the 4 puck is $299. Why the puck and how many pucks do I want? Why not the ACT Street clutch? Is that a good one? What else should I change with the clutch? Any seals or anything?
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like kevin said, it all depends on how much horsepower you are putting down. if under 450hp, then go with a street/strip clutch, such as the act (not for me) exeddy stage 1 (thats what im running), or just the stock clutch. now, if you are putting down some beefage like j-rat, then sure, the 4 puck sprung disc is nice, or a twin plate clutch, but be prepared to put down some G's for those setups.
if you havent already put down G's for over 450hp, then you havent lived................im broke as hell
peace
if you havent already put down G's for over 450hp, then you havent lived................im broke as hell
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without "assuming," yeah im wrong. but everytime i've bought a clutch, i've also bought a new pressure plate. the TRD 3 puck was for an AE86 and every clutch i've seen or bought online came with a new and more aggressive pressure plate. if you try and tell me that a 120hp 4age makes more torque than an rx7, then i dont know what to say.
and yes, i am running an ACT 4 puck unsprung with an exedy heavy duty pressure plate on my s4 tII. my s14 and r32 both had hypersingles.
and yes, i am running an ACT 4 puck unsprung with an exedy heavy duty pressure plate on my s4 tII. my s14 and r32 both had hypersingles.
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Don't "Assume," without saying you are. It makes an *** out of joo & meh. Here we go again
Another person that just will not admit when he is wrong.
Now explain to me how anyone reading that won't come to the rational conclusion that you are suggesting that a 4 puck unsprung DISC (becuase that's the description of a disc) will give you a stiffer pedal feel? Seriously.
Not to mention this was a TRD clutch.... I'm going to assume for the time being that this was on a toyota motor which I dare say will produce more torque ~2,000 than a rotary once again making your opinions irrelavent. We're talking specifically about ACT clutches. Do you have experience with an ACT unsprung puck clutch on a rotary?
FWIW - I could have went the way of the ACT Extreme + street disc but I already had the extreme pp and didn't like it. I went the way of the exedy twin disc because I refuse to drive a puck, and I didn't want the extreme pp.
![rofl](https://www.rx7club.com/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
Don't "Assume," without saying you are. It makes an *** out of joo & meh. Here we go again
![Wallbash](https://www.rx7club.com/images/smilies/wallbash.gif)
Now explain to me how anyone reading that won't come to the rational conclusion that you are suggesting that a 4 puck unsprung DISC (becuase that's the description of a disc) will give you a stiffer pedal feel? Seriously.
Not to mention this was a TRD clutch.... I'm going to assume for the time being that this was on a toyota motor which I dare say will produce more torque ~2,000 than a rotary once again making your opinions irrelavent. We're talking specifically about ACT clutches. Do you have experience with an ACT unsprung puck clutch on a rotary?
FWIW - I could have went the way of the ACT Extreme + street disc but I already had the extreme pp and didn't like it. I went the way of the exedy twin disc because I refuse to drive a puck, and I didn't want the extreme pp.
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You sir, are a man. I like you
Certainly one of the more mature membes here.
The flywheel is also going to have alot to do with the feel of the engagement as well. @ idle there is a chance that the 4age makes more torque, I don't know if it does or not as there just simply isn't enough information. I can tell you for a fact though that my I-6 will make way more torque @ idle than my hopeful 400+bhp twin turbo 13B-RE will make so that also has an impact as well when driving on the streets.
There really are just tooo many variables but I have always thought to not get more clutch than you need. There are planty of street discs that can handle his power so that's the route I would take. Personally I don't like the toggle switch on/off engagement that the puck has. I've also had surgery on my left knee and after a bunch of spirited driving my knee was a little sore with the extreme setup. I'm planning on making about 300-350ft/lbs at the flywheel which iirc the extreme pp/street will handle BUT I wanted to stay away from that PP - Exedy twin was the only answer.
Some people enjoy the engagement of a puck, I don't. You atleast have a lighter PP than most & possibly a heavier flywheel - your setup may be what I consider streetable, generally Pucks suck for the street.
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but everytime i've bought a clutch, i've also bought a new pressure plate. the TRD 3 puck was for an AE86 and every clutch i've seen or bought online came with a new and more aggressive pressure plate. if you try and tell me that a 120hp 4age makes more torque than an rx7, then i dont know what to say.
and yes, i am running an ACT 4 puck unsprung with an exedy heavy duty pressure plate on my s4 tII. my s14 and r32 both had hypersingles.
and yes, i am running an ACT 4 puck unsprung with an exedy heavy duty pressure plate on my s4 tII. my s14 and r32 both had hypersingles.
There really are just tooo many variables but I have always thought to not get more clutch than you need. There are planty of street discs that can handle his power so that's the route I would take. Personally I don't like the toggle switch on/off engagement that the puck has. I've also had surgery on my left knee and after a bunch of spirited driving my knee was a little sore with the extreme setup. I'm planning on making about 300-350ft/lbs at the flywheel which iirc the extreme pp/street will handle BUT I wanted to stay away from that PP - Exedy twin was the only answer.
Some people enjoy the engagement of a puck, I don't. You atleast have a lighter PP than most & possibly a heavier flywheel - your setup may be what I consider streetable, generally Pucks suck for the street.
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Anyway, get something that exceeds your torque by a little bit. Don't need a clutch that can handle 720 ft/lbs for 120 ft/lbs...
Anyway, get something that exceeds your torque by a little bit. Don't need a clutch that can handle 720 ft/lbs for 120 ft/lbs...