WhiteBoyzRacing

I was wondering if you guys think the pacesetter header is any good? i dont have the money for an rb header, thanks guys

Rotary_Powerd

Daily Driver? The header itself is a decent design you'll see about a 10 hp gain, but the materials aren't the greatest (especially the paint). It's still a good deal for the money if you can find it for $145ish shipped. Scuff the paint off if you buy it and then paint it with some thick ceramic paint.

Soma

would you rather buy two Pacesetter headers or 1 RB/Corksport header?? Save your money and spend the extra $$$ on a quality header, I've heard nothing but bad stuff about the Pacesetter header.

Rotary_Powerd

I had one for another car lasted about 3 years in HEAVY AutoX use.

~overdose~

yeah man i was gonna do the same thing but my friend told me to go with the racing beat one

rxmclaren7

im working on my second one. really crap header but still a good price. i am hoping to have a friend of mine make a copy of the design in stainless. i blew a hole in my first one because of rust...the prev. owner wraped the header. if you can afford it get the ceramic coated one. good luck..

Rotary_Powerd

Corksport is great if you can afford it, Awesome design, and bolts up to the stock system.

Nitrometano

I think all are the same ****

Hyper4mance2k

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i actually heard someone put a pacesetter header on a 12a fb and lost power over the stock exhaust... Reason? They're not equal legnth like the CS or RB ones and they have the crappiest collector imagineable. It might as well be a 'T'

TheDarkRacer

well a FC aint a FB so they could have designed one better then the other lol

Houpty GT

Headers are really only going to give you 2-3 horsepower and in some instances you will lose torque and have little power gain. Grassroots motorsports just did this on a Honda and the compared 2 headers to the stock manifold. The headers only offered about 2 horsepower but the expensive header cost the car about 10 foot-pounds of torque while the cheaper one stayed about the same. The point is that you can not talk about gains unless you can show the before and after on a dyno and that results are also affected by what other changes you have made. It is called tuning the exhaust and the factory should have tried to tune their exhaust while keeping expenses down.

The Mazda RX-7 Performance Handbook talked about the Monza/Pacesetter header and said it is good for the price and did mention that the ceramic coating is definetely a good choice. Earlier in the book they mentioned the small gains made by headers but then later on they went on to recommending a header which I thought was a strange thing to do.

If you do get the header get your car on the same dynanometer before and after and share the results. That way others can benefit from your investment of about $50 or $60 and you can have data to back up any improvement you made not just your butt dyno.

I think most people just put headers on because they can show them off and talk about how they modded their car.

Rotary_Powerd

Yes it's true most cars only gain very little hp. BUT the stock system on the N/A 13b is VERY restrictive. A header in effect removes atleast the two precats (yes our cars have 3 catalytic converters) THAT is the main reason why you'll see gains of 10WHP with just a header on an FC.

jgrts20

I've had my PS header for 5 years now, No rust or holes on it. The only thing is the black paint wares fast. If u get the SS/powdercoat one then you be ok. I only drive my car in the summertime. Guestamate 1500/2000 miles a year!! It does make a diff in power.

Chris

WhiteBoyzRacing

thanks guys for the input, if i can find a shop that has a dyno ill do it with the stock and then with the ps header and find out if there is any diff and ill post it . thanks again.

NJGreenBudd

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I ran a pace setter header for 1.5 yrs and it was in perfect shape after words minus the paint, still is fine to this day. It was cheap and worked fine for my GXL. I tried to get the ceramic coated but was told it was disconitnued.

Spectator

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IMO, wait for a deal on ebay, lots of RB headers sold every week for real cheap.

Rotary_Powerd

but they won't bolt up.......

Spectator

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Wtf?!

What wont bolt up?

NJGreenBudd

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i should add: while i bought the pace setter and it was fine, i bought it years ago when I was broke and didn't know any better. It's okay to get started with, but I wouldn't buy that right now if I had to do it over again, I'd probably get the racing beat one cause my rb downpipe for my TII is wicked nice.,simply cause it maintains without rusting and there was no paint which burned off.

1RevvinFC3S

I have the Pacesetter 2.5" header on my FC and its not too bad. Its been on there for about 4 years now (my first mod) and there is a noticeable gain in HP and maybe some TQ. Also- yes the paint sucks because mine has a nice coat of oxidization on it, but no worries because its still a pretty solid header. If I had to do it over again though, I'd just save a little bit more for the Racing Beat header. So the choice is really up to you. Its not a HORRIBLE idea by any means to get the PS, but you might as well get the RB because its so pretty

Rotary_Powerd

RB headers won't bolt up to the stock system. You need to buy more RB exhaust components to use the RB header. Which is why I recommend the Corksport.

jazzmanbob

Big Questions to answer before you buy headers: #1; Is your engine ported? #2; Are you planning to upgrade the rest of the exhaust system? #3; Have you installed a freer flowing intake system?
Without porting the added flow capability of the headers will not be utilized well.
Improving the flow out of the motor dosen't help much if the rest of the system is restrictive.
In order for your motor to breath better and exhaust more freely, more air needs to get into the motor.
A good place to read up on the steps to follow is Mazdatrix web site.

I went with RB headers because the Pacesetter did not fit on my convertible due to the additional cross-member.
My engine has a performance street port, Bonez intake, Turbo housings (no deflector in the exhaust port), Bonez high flow catcon with air tube so my 5-6 ports are functional. Currently I am running a Bosal Y pipe and Bosal mufflers.They were new on the car when I purchased it so I figure I will run with that for a while but the sound is raspy and obnoxious. I am debating RB mufflers or Borla.

jazzmanbob

My RB headers with the Bonex converter bolted right up to the basically stock rear section.https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...2&d=1172208703

Hyper4mance2k

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True, but they use the exact same process in making the header. It's un equal, it has the shittiest collector imagineable, and it doesn't come straight off the exhaust ports at all. The exhaust has to take an immidiate turn out of the port. The rear rotor runner is much more of a drastic bend in it then the front resulting in extreamly unballenced flow for both rotors... Yes they work, but for the extra $100 or 8 hours of overtime for even minimum wage jobs will be worth it in the long run...

h23

I'd just save til you had the money for the RB header. Do it once, do it right.