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Old 10-27-03, 11:37 AM
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Oil Filler tube?

Ok, I have my rats nest removed,h ave for quite a while, I am wondering what you guys who have done this connect the line that attaches to the oil filler neck to. It is a large diameter line pointing towards the back of the engine. I have mine currently to a breather filter, but I am getting a littlle condensation under the cap. What should I hook it up to, a vacuum back on the intake manifold?
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Normally it goes to the PVC valve and then to the intake.

I don't think you want it 100% of the time going to thge intake.
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I don't really feel like searching the fsm, Icemark you are the man when it comes to this stuff. If I get a pcv between the oil filler and the intake that would solve the problem? most likely? do you happen to know which part # the pcv is?
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bumpity, Hey Ice help me out bro
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get an oil catch can. and hook it between the oil filler neck tube and the TB or intake
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Originally posted by wpgrexx
I don't really feel like searching the fsm...
Don't be lazy. It'll take ~20 sec to find.
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I'm at this point right now and I'll just reroute the Purge Valve back until I know what to do. I wouldn't want to open up my Filler cap to find any other colour besides gold by sealing It shut.
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Originally posted by NZConvertible
Don't be lazy. It'll take ~20 sec to find.
and you just wasted 20 seconds by not answering the question and typing something popintless.


I am going to only ask stupid questions from ow on because lately only things like how much power out of an na and will my fd intake fit threads are getting answered.

I am sorry for this quick rant but the amount of helpful members is decreasing everyday. more and more retard questions that stay at the top, butI can't get an answer to a question that has actual value.
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maybe less informative ppl are answering questions cause you are to lazy to help yourself and and asking the informative ppl to do this thinking fo you

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hey pinfeld, flame off. I have helped as many people as I can here, whenever I can. I asked a simple question which he probably knows of the top of his head, I had to go to work so I didn't feel like searching.

All I wanted was a little help on a valid topic, if that is too much to ask fine. I find it amazing how many active pointless threads are ontop of the forum right now, how many people have their rats nest removed, but where do they connect this line. Probably alot of people wondering like me, so go talk about the fd intake or something, ***

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nah i read through the FD upper intake thread and didnt really find in necessary to post cause it seems that the experts have that one in hand

all you had to do was take a min and look for yourlself in the FSM instead trying to insult NZ who by the way is a vastly informative person who has helped me on many differnt things

im just trying to tell that that insluting the "experts" isnt such a great way to get on thier good side so they will be willing to help your lazy ***
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I think Ice Mark is having a problem with the fire down in San Diego. I hope it is OK for him and his parents. I would do a search.
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Originally posted by wpgrexx
hey pinfeld, flame off. I have helped as many people as I can here, whenever I can. I asked a simple question which he probably knows of the top of his head, I had to go to work so I didn't feel like searching.

All I wanted was a little help on a valid topic, if that is too much to ask fine. I find it amazing how many active pointless threads are ontop of the forum right now, how many people have their rats nest removed, but where do they connect this line. Probably alot of people wondering like me, so go talk about the fd intake or something, ***
NO flaming!, your post has been edited.
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And I don't have the part number available right now, you could probably look it up on the parts manual at Mazdaformace. It is the black flying saucer looking thing attached to the oil tube. Single vac line on top, two on the bottom.

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Originally posted by dole2000
I think Ice Mark is having a problem with the fire down in San Diego. I hope it is OK for him and his parents. I would do a search.
Sorry to go off topic, but yes, my immaculate original 88 GTU is history, burnt Sunday in my parents garage in San Diego that I was storing it in. I was going to bring it up next month too.

I am driving down today to see what I can help with. My parents were actually up here in Northern CA visting me when the fire went through burning everything in their neighborhood in San Diego. They are building a house up here in the spring, but it appears that everything is gone down there.

At least there won't be as much stuff of theirs to move when their house is finished being built up here.

But I am bummed about my 88 GTU.
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The blow-by gases are picked up and mixed with fresh air (before the plates) in the purge control valve and then directed in the intake after the plates. IF you still have the purge control valve, then you can put everything back together easily.
I think this is effective only at 2,000 rpm and up. Check FSM for that.

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Sorry to hear about that. Hope things turn out ok for you.

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I'm sorry to hear about the devestating news...thats awful bro.
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I didn't attempt to insult nz, I was simply saying that his post to me was pointless. Just like pinfileds post was pointless.

Ice, super sorry to hear about your family. best of luck. And thanks, you pulled through and helped out, thanks.

also thanks to others, I am grateful to get the answer.
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i dont wanna jack no threads but, when i removed my emissions i just ran a hose from the oil filler neck to the bottom of the car.

is that good or bad?
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no worries, it is very closely related. That setup will cause you to get condensation under the oil cap. white sludge. yucky. I have used a small breather filter on the line, it worked on my old motor, but on my new one it still gets condensation. So, as you have read Icemark informed us that the mazda pcv will work for this problem.
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Taking a deep, claming breath...
Originally posted by wpgrexx
and you just wasted 20 seconds by not answering the question and typing something popintless.
Please explain why I should give you the answer off the top of my head when you could just as easily look it up in the FSM yourself? I've answered questions like this several times before, so you could have searched too.

One of the reasons I know so much about these cars is because I've taken the time to study the FSM. Most times you can get an answer to simple questions like this from the FSM much quicker than you will from the forum, and you won't be making someone else do the work for you.

If you "don't feel like searching the FSM", why should I? I like helping people, it's part of why I'm here, but why should I help somone just because they can't be bothered helping themself?

And in case you haven't found it yet, the schematic for the PCV system is on page 4A-85.

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Crancase vacuum is a good thing. Hook that nipple up to the intake tube prior to the TB (way too much vacuum pressure (lack of pressure?) if you hook it to the manifold. I actually ran it off the manifold but it caused a leak because of that missing nipple I pointed out Jim. if you've successfully plugged that hole, you can hook it to whatever you want.

IMO catch cans are a waste of money. All it does is allow vapor to settle in a jar you have to then empty. Why not send that vapor back into the motor to be burned off. (one little environmentally friendly component that won't kill HP)
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it may be environmentally friendly but it does lower the octane of your fuel, in turbos that is not wise.
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Originally posted by Jimmy325i
Crancase vacuum is a good thing. Hook that nipple up to the intake tube prior to the TB (way too much vacuum pressure (lack of pressure?) if you hook it to the manifold.
For a turbo you must either connect it pre-turbo (like stock) or use a one-way valve in the line, otherwise you'll pressurise the sump every time you boost.
IMO catch cans are a waste of money. All it does is allow vapor to settle in a jar you have to then empty.
That's the whole point. You want to remove the oil vapour from the intake, while still ventilating the sump. Besides, you can make one very cheaply, so the money isn't an issue.
Why not send that vapor back into the motor to be burned off. (one little environmentally friendly component that won't kill HP)
As mentioned, it lowers fuel octane, and it coats the inside of the intake system with oil. That's not such a big deal with NA's, but with a turbo the oil film on the inside of the intercooler reduces it's heat transfer ability.

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considering I built the engine in wpgrexx's car... I know he's talking about NA here. I'm well aware that a regulated pcv system must be implemented with turbos.

Oil in the intake lowers fuel octane? what kind of horshit is that? what the **** do you think premixing does? oil down the intake pipe could possibly reult in a little dirt collecting, but you're more likely to better lubricate the 6 port sleeves and butterfly guide rods before doing any notable harm.


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