odd hesitation/studdering
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odd hesitation/studdering
and yes ive searched but none of the threads i could find have the same symptoms as i do.
first its an 88 TII with about 5K miles on a rebuild/streetport. its got FMIC,catback exhaust walboro 255,no emissions, and i think thats about it.
this hesitation happens whether the engine is cold or hot and at any rpm. the harder i get on it the harder it hesitates. theres no smoke or sound coming from it.
could this be the AFM because ive checked all the grounds. and im kinda stumped on this.
first its an 88 TII with about 5K miles on a rebuild/streetport. its got FMIC,catback exhaust walboro 255,no emissions, and i think thats about it.
this hesitation happens whether the engine is cold or hot and at any rpm. the harder i get on it the harder it hesitates. theres no smoke or sound coming from it.
could this be the AFM because ive checked all the grounds. and im kinda stumped on this.
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reving is fine and goes through the numbers. boost is normal when it happens as well. the spark plugs are recently new about 500 miles ago. the wires are a bit old but they should still be alright.
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ok i decided to just go ahead and replace the wires. i havent replaced them since ive had the car and its prolly a good idea to get new ones anyway.
ill put them in today and report back and let you know if that was the problem
ill put them in today and report back and let you know if that was the problem
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i had a similar problem and after i researched it a little, people who had symptoms similar to mine said it was the TPS or the fuel pump resistor relay. I havent gotten the chance to troubleshoot my own as I have my car apart for overhaul though, sorry. I replaced my injectors, got new injector connectors and new spark plugs and it would start and idle ok and i could granny it a little and feel nothing but when i put my foot down it would start bucking, jerking and missing.
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Yeah your TPS could be misadjusted or broken, it's a very common failure point.
You should check your timing as well. And if you were thinking you wouldn't have to use a timing light, you do. Oh, but before you do, make sure you can see your timing marks on the front pulley. There should be two notches not far apart on the front main pulley closest to the block. They were painted from the factory, but many or most have faded/worn off, however the notches are still there. Has the car been doing this ever since the motor was built? I just rebuilt my motor and I used the pulleys from the motor that was originally in my car and the front hub from the core I rebuilt. Turned out to be a bad idea because the two hubs, despite both coming off of '87 TII motors, were different, and thus threw the timing marks way off.
You should check your timing as well. And if you were thinking you wouldn't have to use a timing light, you do. Oh, but before you do, make sure you can see your timing marks on the front pulley. There should be two notches not far apart on the front main pulley closest to the block. They were painted from the factory, but many or most have faded/worn off, however the notches are still there. Has the car been doing this ever since the motor was built? I just rebuilt my motor and I used the pulleys from the motor that was originally in my car and the front hub from the core I rebuilt. Turned out to be a bad idea because the two hubs, despite both coming off of '87 TII motors, were different, and thus threw the timing marks way off.
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the motor just started doing this about a week ago.
the timing should be fine given i havent ever touched it.
the more i get on the throttle the harder it will hesitate. if i just granny it up and slowly then it will hesitate less but if i get on it then it hesitates hard and keeps happening
it happens at any rpm but gets harder as it gets in the upper rpms.
thats why im thinking it could be the AFM going bad.
and the TPS should be fine. its somewhat new
the timing should be fine given i havent ever touched it.
the more i get on the throttle the harder it will hesitate. if i just granny it up and slowly then it will hesitate less but if i get on it then it hesitates hard and keeps happening
it happens at any rpm but gets harder as it gets in the upper rpms.
thats why im thinking it could be the AFM going bad.
and the TPS should be fine. its somewhat new
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I'm having the exact same problem on my 87 t2. Basically can baby it up the rpm band but as soon as I press the throttle more than 1/4, it will cut off. If I let off the gas it will "catch" and start running back up the rpms slowly. It's like whenever I press the gas, it blows the fire out. Like the secondary injectors are not working at all.
It will also not idle on it's own ... thinking these problems are related.v I've found most the vacuum leaks it had and replaced the hoses. Cleaned the BAC valve, Air control valve, changed spark plugs, fixed several wiring concerns.
Kinda run out of ideas ... will replace the spark plug wires, test the BAC and ACV valves, and check the tps (after i find it -heh-) tomorrow.
Any Ideas??
This is my first turbo II, I'm used to FD's personally ... and recently FB's.
It will also not idle on it's own ... thinking these problems are related.v I've found most the vacuum leaks it had and replaced the hoses. Cleaned the BAC valve, Air control valve, changed spark plugs, fixed several wiring concerns.
Kinda run out of ideas ... will replace the spark plug wires, test the BAC and ACV valves, and check the tps (after i find it -heh-) tomorrow.
Any Ideas??
This is my first turbo II, I'm used to FD's personally ... and recently FB's.
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I'm having the exact same problem on my 87 t2. Basically can baby it up the rpm band but as soon as I press the throttle more than 1/4, it will cut off. If I let off the gas it will "catch" and start running back up the rpms slowly. It's like whenever I press the gas, it blows the fire out. Like the secondary injectors are not working at all.
It will also not idle on it's own ... thinking these problems are related.v I've found most the vacuum leaks it had and replaced the hoses. Cleaned the BAC valve, Air control valve, changed spark plugs, fixed several wiring concerns.
Kinda run out of ideas ... will replace the spark plug wires, test the BAC and ACV valves, and check the tps (after i find it -heh-) tomorrow.
Any Ideas??
This is my first turbo II, I'm used to FD's personally ... and recently FB's.
It will also not idle on it's own ... thinking these problems are related.v I've found most the vacuum leaks it had and replaced the hoses. Cleaned the BAC valve, Air control valve, changed spark plugs, fixed several wiring concerns.
Kinda run out of ideas ... will replace the spark plug wires, test the BAC and ACV valves, and check the tps (after i find it -heh-) tomorrow.
Any Ideas??
This is my first turbo II, I'm used to FD's personally ... and recently FB's.
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im really hoping its not the fuel.
this seems to be a pretty large problem among this forum.
This thursday i will be pulling the UIM and inspecting the injectors because the more i think about it and drive it, its starting to make me think its the secondary injectors not firing correctly.
keep posting up your ideas and ill start working on mine 2morrow.
i do have a rtek 1.7 sitting at home and im thinking the hesitation fix may help. i just need to find some 720cc secondarys and wire in a resistor.
ill keep updating this as i do more work.
this seems to be a pretty large problem among this forum.
This thursday i will be pulling the UIM and inspecting the injectors because the more i think about it and drive it, its starting to make me think its the secondary injectors not firing correctly.
keep posting up your ideas and ill start working on mine 2morrow.
i do have a rtek 1.7 sitting at home and im thinking the hesitation fix may help. i just need to find some 720cc secondarys and wire in a resistor.
ill keep updating this as i do more work.
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this does sound all too familiar, i had the same problem. Cleaned injectors, replaced injector connectors, grommets, cleaned grounds, replaced all gaskets, fuel lines, vac lines, removed emissions. when i had the LIM off, i had a busted o-ring allowing coolant into the intake runners. I can't say that the oring was the problem but it was fixed after all this and i really think this was the problem. oh yea, also replaced fuel pump and filter and tps. hope it helps. I know its a pain but i would suggest pulling the UIM and LIM, just freshen it up a little, check o rings and gaskets.
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At idle(875-900rpm) my fuel pump connector at the pump is reading 8.8v. Cruising at around 3500rpm voltage is 9.0-9.1v. Now the strange/bad thing, When I get into boost the voltage drops to 7.5ish and comes up to 10ish. So looks like I'm rewiring my pump. Hope that helps. Hope that fixes my problem.