jake1191

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I have seen this used in my buddy's camaro. he puts it in every so often it is supposed to boost octane by 6 octane numbers. It contains nitro methane which is also used for nitro RC cars. Would this be safe to put in my car just to clean some of the sh*t out of the lines. It is supposed to clean injectors also. Just wondered because i dont want to ruin my engine or anything like that. I also know i dont need to run octane booster in an N/A.

CrackHeadMel

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I wouldnt bother with any of the above, if anything save up a few bucks and send our your injectors to be cleaned

jake1191

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i am sending my secondaries out next week because one leaks and makes my car flood every now and then.

Lancerman360

octane boosters are a waste of money

RexRyder

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just get paint thinner, mix with MMO

Marshessn

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finally.. someone who isnt afraid of using paint thinner in their engine! i made a concoction of diesel/paint thinner/ATF to clean the crankcase in an old toyota i had. works wonders if only driven for ~200 miles.

Gene

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Higher octane regardless of where it's coming from is totally unnecessary on a street driven non-turbo RX-7 engine.

jake1191

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i know i dont need the higher octane it was just one of the thoughts i had before i decide to go turbo in the future. I really just want to know if the nitromethane is safe in our motors because it is similar to 2 stroke fuel and if used in small amounts gives much higher octane numbers. Plus i have like 6 gallons of the stuff sitting around and it was $20-$30 a gallon

wackaloo13

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check in the alternative fuels or auxiliary injection part of this forum.

from what i can recall, no one has used nitromethane. Why dont you try it and report back

Hypertek

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to the op, if you want to clean up your engine some, have you considered water injection thru a vacum hose? its a safe way to "steam clean" your engine.

Icemark

Unless you have tuned the car to run on higher octane, using any sort of octane booster typically lowers the power output of the gas in a non turbo engine.

jake1191

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I dont want to clean it any i was just wondering if anyone has used this type of octane booster or one with nitro methane. I would try it but my motor isnt at a point i feel safe doing this at because if it had low compression i wouldnt have a prob with it but i have good compression and dont want to ruin nething. I also dont plan on running it in my N/A. I already knew from research that the higher octane in a non-turbo does nothing but cost more money on fill up.

eage8

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all higher octane will do is slow down the burn of the gasoline. So worst case scenario you loose some hp and shoot some flames out your exhaust.

best case scenario is the same...

FC3S Murray

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Sport Compact Car wrote an article on NOS octane booster VS home brew octane booster VS Outlaw booster.

http://www.europeancarweb.com/tech/0...ted/index.html

Interesting none the less. NOS proved to be the most effective.

jake1191

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Well at least i know its worth running in a Piston Car now. Even at $15 a bottle in some places. Even though i could buy 100+ octane from $2.50 and up a gallon and within 15 miles of home to boot. Might try that when i get a turbo car this summer.

Evil Aviator

It would be safe because there is only a small concentration of cleaners if you use the product as designed. However, you would be better off sending your injectors out to be cleaned and flow tested rather than relying on snake oil. If you use Top Tier gas on a regular basis there is not much need for cleaning out your system with overpriced additives.
http://www.toptiergas.com/

Paint thinner does not meet the purity standards required of fuel and fuel additives. Using paint thinner risks varnishing your engine internals with crap. Hopefully you have a really good fuel filter.

The NOS Octane Booster Racing Formula contains about 60% Kerosene, 10% MMT (the actual active ingredient for boosting the octane), 5% Nitromethane, and about 25% other distillates and aromatics. Without knowing the exact composition, I would estimate that it has about 3-5% more BTU/lb vs. pump gasoline. Given that there is only about 12 oz in the fuel tank, it would not produce a significant increase in power in a car that can't take advantage of the higher octane rating.

That is a myth. The octane rating does not necessarily relate to the burn rate.

mario1386

just put 1 gallon of 110 octane and the rest 87 octane , that would clean the lines and the injectors i've done it and nothing happen to engine just it spit fire a little ,,,,or use 1gal of the nitro methane and the rest 87 octane

CrackHeadMel

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Are you kidding?

jake1191

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I dont think im going to put a whole gallon in. I ran a mix of 3:1 in a lawnmower and it melted the piston. I know rotary doesnt have piston put it may melt the seals

dragonxbreath

Honestly HP tests have been done on piston cars ever since the stuff came out with moderate increases. However if everyone really wants to know then I suggest a dyno day with and without octane booster...just to see. I'm thinking about doing it myself just to see what if any increase occurs

SirCygnus

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nothing happens. octane doesn't increase horsepower.

dragonxbreath

i've heard of tests on piston engines, v8's though where a mild increase occured. but your looking at 5 to 8hp only

Evil Aviator

I've heard of tests where red cars make more hp than blue cars.

Tell me what is wrong with my statement, and then you will understand what is wrong with yours.

Hint: See the post by SirCygnus.

j0rd4n

it only works on cars that you have applied NOS Brand Octane Booster stickers!!

ericgrau

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Octane is for protection not for performance. You need to do other things to improve performance, then you use high octane to protect. The only time high octane will ever increase power is if you have inadequate protection but a knock sensor detunes your engine to save it. i.e., when your engine starts knocking. If anything octane by itself decreases power slightly. Knocking itself tends to cause instant failure (if bad enough), not damage over time. If you did need the octane (you don't), you would need it every single time, not "every once in a while".

If you want to actually take care of a car, try following the factory recommended scheduled maintenance. If you want to clean your fuel system and/or injectors, you gotta take things apart and physically clean them. You send the injectors to a place to do it. If you want to keep the fuel system and injectors clean or remove minor buildup then you use quality gasoline.

I simplified things a little, but that's basically it. Equally true for both pistons and rotaries.