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Old 09-10-03 | 12:52 AM
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need help getting exhaust diffuser pins out

As the title says, I don't really want to drill them out as I do want to put the pins back afterwards, but I need to swap in my tII sleeves into an n/a housing, but the damn thing doesn't want to come out! Any ideas/tricks/etc that I'm just missing? Searching yields about zilch as far as 'how' to remove them.
Old 09-10-03 | 12:57 AM
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Though i know of crafty ways of making metal work...

Drrrr.... what the hell is an exhaust difuser?
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Er well, maybe I should have said exhaust sleeve. Anyway, in the exhaust port is a big round sleeve, and on N/A's, there's a diffuser in there to quiet it down, well I've got to take that sleeve out, and swap it with the turbo one since it's going in my s5 turbo, but I have no idea how to get the damn pins that hold it in place out! there like those annoying C pins pounded down into a hole that you can't get around the other side to tap them through. The only suggestion i saw was a pull hammer, but i've got no idea how that's going to work!
Old 09-10-03 | 01:16 AM
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Oh, that thing.


Hmmm, well let me go grab the housing off my dresser
Old 09-10-03 | 01:20 AM
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Oh **** that,

I see what you're talking about now.

two pins on each the side of the housing that secure the "diffuser" right?

Hey, this housing is totally warpped, so let me know if you want me to monkey with it.
Old 09-10-03 | 01:35 AM
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If you can figure out anything, I'd be much obliged. I can't figure out a damned thing on getting them out without ruining them
Old 09-10-03 | 01:45 AM
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There was a thread about this a few weeks back. Take it to a shop that has a welder and have them weld a bead onto the pin. Then you can just pull it out. Make sure they know what they are doing. You don't want just any jackass with a welder to do it.
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well how about this then,

You drill or connan yours out with the very hammer of thor if you have to, with the prior knowledge that i have two rotor housing totally tosted waiting for the c clips to be removed and sent to you only at the cost of shipping.

Your guess is going to be about as good as mine about removal.

I say soak them in W-40 for about a million years, take a thin razor blade and gently carve the crap out around their perimeter. Then take a thin screw driver and pry up one side of the c pin. Then once the pin is slightly flanged or pryed up, get an ultra thin pair of needle nose and pull.
Old 09-10-03 | 01:49 AM
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That's what i was trying earlier without much luck, damn thing just didn't want to move, maybe I can get a pick down in there and under it and pry up. Thanks for trying.
Old 09-10-03 | 02:07 AM
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I have a feeling that just buy looking them they act as a lag bolt would.

At the very end of them is probably a tapered end that acts to ancor them into the housing permanently.

Just grab those suckers with needle nose pilers, then somehow afix a vice grip to jaws of the needle nose, place your feet on housing, and pull on the needle nose pliers like Connan the Destroyer.
Old 09-10-03 | 02:50 AM
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How would you go about grabbing ahold of them in the first place? I'm going to try just inserting a couple of picks down there and seing if I can't hook underneath it somehow and pull it up and out.
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Easy-Out. (or was that EZ-Out?).
Old 09-10-03 | 03:15 PM
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I'm not sure if the one i've got is small enough, but I tried it and it just didn't get any grip on the pin. Oh well, I think Landers is going to cut the diffuser out for me anyway
Old 09-10-03 | 07:44 PM
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I am about to remove my na sleeves, too, and was planning on drilling out the pins and getting new pins at the hardware store or Napa. Metric sizes might be a challenge to find but if I can't find a metric size, I will use the next larger sae size and drill the housing / TII sleeves to match the new pins.

That's the plan, anyways.
Old 09-11-03 | 04:58 PM
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I just got a peek at them today.
It looks like maybe 1/4" at the largest diameter?
I would try and shoot a lot of lubricant down there and then use a drill size that is large enough to bite into the wall.&nbsp You should be able to spin those suckers out?



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Old 09-14-03 | 12:22 AM
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I thought I would contribute my latest events to this thread for future reference. I tried removing the roll pins for my exhaust sleeves to no avail. They were seriously stuck and I tried threading screws into them and pulling them out, p-blasting them, and drilling them out but they were very hard and my drill bit expired before I was a quarter of the way through the first pin.

Enter the Dremel. I am beginning to realize that there is nothing better for seriously making an impact on a piece of metal than a Dremel with a cutting wheel or grinding stone.

I found that if I put a bar clamp on one side of the sleeve, clamping it towards the housing, it would create a gap on the opposite side. This gap revealed the stuck pin and was large enough to accomodate a cutting wheel.



Having done minimal damage to the housings but severed the pins, I used an old bolt and hard faced hammer to tap the remnants of the pins out from the housing.



The rubber mallet sitting there had wandered onto the workbench during the chain of events, but was not used for any functional task.

I am planning to buy four steel roll pins at the hardware store. They cost a few cents each and will contract slightly when installed, making the union of SAE sized pins to my Japanese housings a possibility I'll probably have to prune their excess length after being installed using the Dremel.
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Hey that bumper turned out great. Props.
Old 09-14-03 | 01:15 AM
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH


That's it. I am going to make a mold and just start selling them. People everywhere like it and all I did was change the vent shapes. Nopistons, Torquecentral, everywhere I show the pic.

I don't know when I'll get around to it but it is starting to gnaw at my conscience . . .
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Thanks for the info intengra, hopefully when that housing gets here I can get it out easily




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