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06-13-12, 10:07 PM
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Compression check. I know you all hate it but don't waste his money on other crap like fuel filters when it's the cheapest first check.
Compression check. I know you all hate it but don't waste his money on other crap like fuel filters when it's the cheapest first check.
06-15-12, 06:03 PM
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No, you're wrong. It's not about what happens, it is all about what could happen. What could happen is you're flying down the road and hit a family of 4 in a car like a Mazda 3 and kill them all because you think that 15mph over the speed limit is ok. I promise you, if you start driving slower, people around you will too. I've proven it. At least you admit doing wrong, but please think about it before hauling *** like that next time.
If it's not a clogged fuel filter, then expect a melted catalytic converter if you still have one.
If it's not a clogged fuel filter, then expect a melted catalytic converter if you still have one.
Driving slower than the flow of traffic as you're suggesting is just as dangerous, if not more, than driving 90-100 in a 70-80 mph traffic flow as the OP indictes as you're creating a bottle neck. Bottom line, what you're suggesting is just plain narrow minded.
I will say this, driving 90-100 as the OP indicates is NOT normal for daily driving even on the California freeways. That's the kind of thing that can get your car impounded as you're being taken directly to jail. But 70-80 is. Those that know me know I'm not exactly a mild mannered driver when I'm trying to get somewhere, but rarely do even I drift above that range.
Back on point, I'm thinking fuel pump. Filters don't all of a sudden get clogged, but fuel pumps can all of a sudden fail. That, or perhaps the power to the fuel pump is being interupted because the previous owner wasn't paying attenton when wiring something up. I assume you have plenty of fuel in the tank?
06-15-12, 10:30 PM
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No Hozzman, I'm the guy driving the speed limit because it's the law.
Here's what really annoys me about this whole thing. I'm pretty sure everyone's missing the point here. The point is that I have no use for the guy that is going 90-100mph on the road and thinks that's ok. I've been all across this country, and I know for a fact that stunts like that aren't acceptable anywhere. And yes, you're very right; it's stuff like that which will get your car impounded and your license taken away. But most of all, when I come back from my deployments the 2 things that I look forward to the most are my family and driving my sports cars. If either of those 2 freedoms of mine get taken away while I'm out defending yours, will that be something you can live with?
The uniformed services have already started imposing some pretty strict rules for driving motorcycles. Anyone here know why? Yep, it's because they figured out there was a culture of people hauling *** on motorcycles, killing themselves and/or others. Of course there were people who were able to ride motorcycles responsibly, but now their freedom of riding is being jeopardized because of the group of buttholes that didn't. Guess where that's going next?
Here's what really annoys me about this whole thing. I'm pretty sure everyone's missing the point here. The point is that I have no use for the guy that is going 90-100mph on the road and thinks that's ok. I've been all across this country, and I know for a fact that stunts like that aren't acceptable anywhere. And yes, you're very right; it's stuff like that which will get your car impounded and your license taken away. But most of all, when I come back from my deployments the 2 things that I look forward to the most are my family and driving my sports cars. If either of those 2 freedoms of mine get taken away while I'm out defending yours, will that be something you can live with?
The uniformed services have already started imposing some pretty strict rules for driving motorcycles. Anyone here know why? Yep, it's because they figured out there was a culture of people hauling *** on motorcycles, killing themselves and/or others. Of course there were people who were able to ride motorcycles responsibly, but now their freedom of riding is being jeopardized because of the group of buttholes that didn't. Guess where that's going next?
06-16-12, 09:32 AM
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Allright I get it, this isn't about me breaking the law, I don't care. I'm not trying to be a dick but wtf does any of this have to do with my motor? The war in iraq is a complete joke, you being there fighting or not has nothing to do with the laws in the state of california. I come from a strict military family to begin with so its not like I don't have respect for you guys. The only reason I said I was goin those speeds was to give a backstory on what went down. If you're trying to diagnose a problem you gotta lnow the cars history feel me?
06-16-12, 06:15 PM
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AGreen - First, thank you for your service. But I can also say I grew up a Navy brat, so I know the type of conservative environment you're coming from.
That said, if the traffic flow is 75 MPH and you're driving at a slower speed causing a bottle neck (as you suggested driving slowly just to cause those around you to drop to your speed) creating traffic congestion, there is a section in the vehicle code just for you (at least in California) - Impeding the flow of traffic. Doesn't matter what speed your driving. Another, if you're driving on a two lane road so slowly that you have 5 or more cars backed up behind you, you are required to pull over and let that traffic pass (at least in California).
I have a far greater problem with anyone improperly imposing their will on others (for any reason for that matter) such as you suggested essentially to create traffic congestions than I do with some one driving 90-100 at 1AM in the morning when few are on the freeway.
To the OP, my money is still on something to do with the fuel pump.
That said, if the traffic flow is 75 MPH and you're driving at a slower speed causing a bottle neck (as you suggested driving slowly just to cause those around you to drop to your speed) creating traffic congestion, there is a section in the vehicle code just for you (at least in California) - Impeding the flow of traffic. Doesn't matter what speed your driving. Another, if you're driving on a two lane road so slowly that you have 5 or more cars backed up behind you, you are required to pull over and let that traffic pass (at least in California).
I have a far greater problem with anyone improperly imposing their will on others (for any reason for that matter) such as you suggested essentially to create traffic congestions than I do with some one driving 90-100 at 1AM in the morning when few are on the freeway.
To the OP, my money is still on something to do with the fuel pump.
06-16-12, 07:19 PM
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For instance, do you know if you have fuel delivery?
Next time you post why not tell us what you've tried and eliminated instead of us playing twenty questions and your car sits idle.
06-16-12, 09:07 PM
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Man, I was hoping for a melted down catalytic converter 
I've seen one completely melted to a solid plug before. That caused an interesting symptom similar to what the OP posted. He was driving down the highway and lost power until the car came to a complete stop. Wouldn't restart. The only difference was that after a little time, it would restart, struggle to run, then die within a few seconds.
OP, you sound like a decent enough guy and completely understand what I'm saying here. All I was asking for was some consideration, and you have. Thanks.
There is, however, some misinformation. According to section 22400a, you can get pullled over for impeding the flow of traffic in the state of CA. However, you have every right to drive at the maximum speed limit in any lane at any time, even in CA. Impeding the flow of traffic is driving so slow that it's dangerous, not driving within compliance of law, safely, when others are in such a rush to get somewhere 2.5 minutes faster. The maximum posted speed limit is the limit, and there is a fine for anything over. As I have found out, you can and will get pulled for 9 mph over on an interstate. I have proof in my glovebox.
I've seen one completely melted to a solid plug before. That caused an interesting symptom similar to what the OP posted. He was driving down the highway and lost power until the car came to a complete stop. Wouldn't restart. The only difference was that after a little time, it would restart, struggle to run, then die within a few seconds.
OP, you sound like a decent enough guy and completely understand what I'm saying here. All I was asking for was some consideration, and you have. Thanks.
There is, however, some misinformation. According to section 22400a, you can get pullled over for impeding the flow of traffic in the state of CA. However, you have every right to drive at the maximum speed limit in any lane at any time, even in CA. Impeding the flow of traffic is driving so slow that it's dangerous, not driving within compliance of law, safely, when others are in such a rush to get somewhere 2.5 minutes faster. The maximum posted speed limit is the limit, and there is a fine for anything over. As I have found out, you can and will get pulled for 9 mph over on an interstate. I have proof in my glovebox.
06-16-12, 10:16 PM
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have any of you driven out in lancaster? it is borderline barren just on the outskirts of the mohave desert on the way to vegas. i drive 100 on that road all the time.... and mainly i'm the only car for miles ahead or behind me. i'm not an advocate of driving like an idiot either but this is a sports car forum and there's no point owning one if you don't enjoy it from time to time- with caution for others around you. on the flipside i have seen people driving slower than the posted speed limit almost cause accidents behind them in their wake, unaware that they also were causing problems for other drivers who had to be more on point because of them.
anyways, what tests have been done?
i'm betting on catalytic converter or engine. fuel pumps do fail like a light switch also and generally do not slowly die.
no more 20 questions, don't come back without an answer to a test that was given to you.
anyways, what tests have been done?
i'm betting on catalytic converter or engine. fuel pumps do fail like a light switch also and generally do not slowly die.
no more 20 questions, don't come back without an answer to a test that was given to you.
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06-17-12, 01:20 AM
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"you have every right to drive at the maximum speed limit in any lane at any time, even in CA"
My friend, you could not be more wrong. Where is Fu when I need him...................
MR. OP, PLEASE take note of Mr. Clokker's suggestion.
My friend, you could not be more wrong. Where is Fu when I need him...................
MR. OP, PLEASE take note of Mr. Clokker's suggestion.
06-17-12, 06:36 PM
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When it starts, is there smoke? When trying to start it, does it chug to start or just quick fire after a few turns and then chugs dead? Loss of compression? Blown gasket? Wait, I'm gonna race on over and have a look. I rebuilt my RX-7 and she flies at an easy 120mph DAILY!!!! I'll be right over...
06-17-12, 08:21 PM
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Yep, I'm wrong. I know when to admit it. According to this, you are correct. Too fast for conditions still applies in California.
I'm still waiting for actual proof that you can in trouble for driving the speed limit in 100 mph traffic. I even gave the vehicle code number for the California minimum speed law. Nowhere does it say that it overrides the maximum speed law. It does, however, say:
"No person shall drive upon a highway at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, unless the reduced speed is necessary for safe operation, because of a grade, or in compliance with law. "
So if everyone is going 100 mph and I get on the freeway at the posted speed (say it's 70mph), I'm going to drive my happy *** at 70 mph.
I know the law, and I'll continue to follow it. I've gotten one traffic ticket in my life, and that was due to a faulty cruise control (wouldn't disengage as I entered a school zone, so I got cited for 35 in a 25 in Texas).
I'm done arguing about this. OP, I really do apologize for hijacking your thread.
I'm still waiting for actual proof that you can in trouble for driving the speed limit in 100 mph traffic. I even gave the vehicle code number for the California minimum speed law. Nowhere does it say that it overrides the maximum speed law. It does, however, say:
"No person shall drive upon a highway at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, unless the reduced speed is necessary for safe operation, because of a grade, or in compliance with law. "
So if everyone is going 100 mph and I get on the freeway at the posted speed (say it's 70mph), I'm going to drive my happy *** at 70 mph.
I know the law, and I'll continue to follow it. I've gotten one traffic ticket in my life, and that was due to a faulty cruise control (wouldn't disengage as I entered a school zone, so I got cited for 35 in a 25 in Texas).
I'm done arguing about this. OP, I really do apologize for hijacking your thread.
06-18-12, 01:14 PM
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Lots of good advice as usual. I'd do the compression test, since it's easy and gets that out of the way.
But it does sound like a failing fuel pump. Esp. since at first the car was loosing power, and now it only starts sometimes. As if not enough fuel pressure is building.
Do this:
1. Turn ign. on (warning lights on, engine off, don't crank starter).
2. Find the yellow fuel pump prime/check connector (it's has a black rubber boot around it and is near ...edit: post #2, picture #5 in this thread...
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/pictures-various-sensors-na-reference-671004/page2/#post9861331 ).
3. Take a wire and jumper this connector.
You should hear an immediate whirring (lol technical name i'd say) of the fuel pump, fuel rail presurrizing, and fuel running past the pressure regulator at the front end of the secondary fuel rail (the one you can see easily, mushroom shaped part with a vacuum hose coming from the bottom to it at 90 degrees).
BTW, see sig for FSM link(s), has a good troubleshooting guide for all kinds of symptoms.
But it does sound like a failing fuel pump. Esp. since at first the car was loosing power, and now it only starts sometimes. As if not enough fuel pressure is building.
Do this:
1. Turn ign. on (warning lights on, engine off, don't crank starter).
2. Find the yellow fuel pump prime/check connector (it's has a black rubber boot around it and is near ...edit: post #2, picture #5 in this thread...
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/pictures-various-sensors-na-reference-671004/page2/#post9861331 ).
3. Take a wire and jumper this connector.
You should hear an immediate whirring (lol technical name i'd say) of the fuel pump, fuel rail presurrizing, and fuel running past the pressure regulator at the front end of the secondary fuel rail (the one you can see easily, mushroom shaped part with a vacuum hose coming from the bottom to it at 90 degrees).
BTW, see sig for FSM link(s), has a good troubleshooting guide for all kinds of symptoms.
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