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Old 06-10-12, 09:41 AM
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Need help asap. I'm not sure what's going on here

Ok so last night o was on my way home driving on the freeway goIng pretty fast, aprox 90-100. And as I'm going I notice that I'm slowing down even with the pedal floored. It wasn't a quick deceleration but I could tell. So I downshift to 4th to gain more speed and then back up to 5th. I get off the freeway and as I approch the stoplight-the rpms dropped and it just died on me. It wasn't overheating or anything. I wasn't railing on it too hard, so idk what couldve happened. I push my car to the nearest parking lot and try to start it up. Nothing, it just keeps cranking. This goes on for about 10 mins. I eventually give up and call for a ride. My beloved FC is now in the chuck-e-cheese parking lot and I don't have any leads other a possible blown apex seal. The car is a 88 NA with approx 291,XXX miles on it. Rebuilt motor about 5 months ago. Changed spark plugs last weekend.
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Before getting all apocalyptic, check your fuel delivery...clogged filter(s) and the like.
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How would I know its clogged? And if it is, do I need to replace it with an oem one? Or can I use a universal fuel filter?
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Leave the car there and go buy a Geo Metro. I have a family. I really hate people like you for driving that fast, endangering the lives of innocent people with a 3000 pound weapon. I don't care what time it was or how safe you think you are, but you were obviously close enough to population since you pulled into a chuck-e-cheese. This is how people like you ruin driving sports cars for responsible people like me. Keep that **** on the track, or keep it in the garage.
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People in california drive 15 miles over the speed limit anyway. So 90 isn't that fast. People were passing me up, that dosent make what I did right but to me I Don't think about it cuz I'm used to everyone going fast anyway. And I was coming home from willow springs, so sorry I was still hyped up from the track. Yeah maybe I shouldn't have been driving like a maniac but did I kill anyone? No. Its not about what COULD happen, its about WHAT happened. And what happened was I got my karma and now I don't have a car, so my bad...geeez
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No, you're wrong. It's not about what happens, it is all about what could happen. What could happen is you're flying down the road and hit a family of 4 in a car like a Mazda 3 and kill them all because you think that 15mph over the speed limit is ok. I promise you, if you start driving slower, people around you will too. I've proven it. At least you admit doing wrong, but please think about it before hauling *** like that next time.

If it's not a clogged fuel filter, then expect a melted catalytic converter if you still have one.
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Originally Posted by DankestKush
How would I know its clogged? And if it is, do I need to replace it with an oem one? Or can I use a universal fuel filter?
Well, let's see...
You could undo the hose exiting the filter, replace it with a hose to a dump can, key the car ON and see if anything comes out.

The idea here is to check the simple **** first before getting all exotic about what might be wrong.
The simple **** being FUEL, SPARK and AIR.
A visual inspection would help...is the MAF properly connected, did a vac hose fall off, fuses good, etc.
No need bringing in Sherlock before Watson has a go.
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Ok well oem or aftermarket autzone fuel filter?
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Use whatever is available. Be sure to get the proper fuel filter, though.
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Originally Posted by DankestKush
Ok well oem or aftermarket autzone fuel filter?
Again you've put the cart before the horse...check fuel flow before buying anything.
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The fuel filter should have been replaced when the engine was rebuilt.
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Ok, so I went back to my car this morning, and tried to start it. It cranked for a good 30 seconds then it finnaly struggled to start. Then i gave it some gas and held it for a couple seconds. As soon as I let off he gas it died. I was like, okay wtf? I try it again and it struggled to start and the same thing happened. So the first thing I did was pull the spark plugs and after only a week they were pretty brown and mildly fouled. So I went down the road to o'riellys got the last ones they had in stock, go back install the plugs and still nothing. Check the ign fuse and it wasn't looking very good. I back to the parts store to replace it for 4 bucks. Car still doesn't wanna start. I don't get it, it started 2x and now it won't start at all. I don't have the means to check the fuel filter simply because I don't have the tools and something to catch any fuel that spills out. And I don't know how to do it on my own. I know cars, but I'm not any expert.

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First thing, get the car to a garage or somewhere you can work on it and have tools, rags, buckets, work lights, ect... Second, buy a haynes manual or factory service manual and start trouble shooting using the manuals for step by step processes. I think your headed in the right direction by wanting to fix the car yourself and get the knowledge and experience. I really hope everything is ok and its just something stupid holdin you back. Good luck to you
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You most likely need to deflood it now. And changing the fuel filter is about as easy, if not easier, than performing an oil change.

Are you using the stock injectors? Did you have them serviced while rebuilding the engine? You've checked all grounds? You have spark? The leading coil is grounded well? (Bolted down properly, making full contact with the engine bay.) - Your fuel pump is in good working order?... It runs with the check connector jumpered and key to "ON"? You're getting fuel? Does the car have fuel in the tank? The TPS has been set to 1V with engine warmed? Have you checked for any codes? Have you checked the kick panel fuses? (Particularly the 15A 'engine' fuse.) - Have you checked voltages at the ECU? Your water thermo sensor is good?? Have you recently messed with the CAS??

Give us some information, man.
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Sell it
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Bunch of cry babies about speeding. In NY if your doing the speed limit its considered driving slow. Not one time while im doing the speed limit i been traveling faster than ANYONE else. Sure yes its pretty sad and i cant say i like all the speeders but keeping up with with the flow of traffic may reduce the chance of a accident believe it or not. Even while i try to cruse at 70mph EVERYONE is doing 80+. Pretty fucked up. I hate how crazy the drivers are but what are you going to do? Not much period.

OP you need to check fuel pressure, ignition, and compression. The 3 things in which a engine needs to run. Stop trying to act like such grown ups saying sell the car, stop speeding. I know you all done it before.

What made you think the plugs fouled out? If they were fairly new i doubt they went bad while driving. "checked ign fuse, didnt look so good" Well if can only be good or bad buddy. To check fuel pressure is rather easy and if some fuel is spilt who cares, use a small bucket or something. Check small/easy things then work to bigger stuff. It isnt rocket science.
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The plugs were black as **** after only being in there for about a week.but anyway, I towed home last night and I haven't messed with it yet. I work 10 hour days, 6 days a week so I rarely have time to work on it. But today ill go out there and take a look at a few things. I don't have a garage as I live in an apt complex. So all the work is done out side. I've got a haynes manual so ill start with the simple things and report back later today. I just hope its not gunna be a scorcher today. I can feel the summer heat already.
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Oh yeah and the car floods out all the time because the guy who rebuilt the motor wired the 5th and 6th ports open. So all that fuel is gettin dumped in at start up. He didn't bother telling me this untill I asked him and he said its "irreversable"
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Originally Posted by DankestKush
Oh yeah and the car floods out all the time because the guy who rebuilt the motor wired the 5th and 6th ports open. So all that fuel is gettin dumped in at start up. He didn't bother telling me this untill I asked him and he said its "irreversable"
Well you shuold not have bought it from him because he has no idea what he is talking about.

Irreversible? They are two pieces of metal with linkage that makes them rotate when a diaphragm is pressurized. Either the linkage has been wired to the open position, or the pieces of metal have been removed. To replace the pieces of metal, you simple remvoe the intake and place new ones in...

Having the ports wired open is not going to flood anything. There is no switch that tells the ECU that your ports are open so it should dump in fuel. Having leaky injectors, bad spark or bad compression will cause it to flood.

Check the fuel filter like mentioned, check the Air Flow Meter (AFM), and check to see that there are no large vacuum leaks. Also check the catalytic converter like previously mentioned. If all those check out look further into the fuel system, make sure you are sparky and have compression.
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Originally Posted by DankestKush
Oh yeah and the car floods out all the time because the guy who rebuilt the motor wired the 5th and 6th ports open. So all that fuel is gettin dumped in at start up. He didn't bother telling me this untill I asked him and he said its "irreversable"
nevermind just sell it and get more of that "dankestkush"
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Hahaha. Well yeah he removed the metal pieces. And I have no cat, just straight pipe. The backpressure tube has been removed and capped off. Talk about ***** rigged. There is a hissing sound sometimes after I turn the car off. It doesn't do it everytime but I do hear it. It smells like fuel all the time.
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That's because its a rotary and you dont have a cat. Can you do that in CA?
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Sounds blown to me. Check compression before you do anything else.
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Is there any gas in the car? Hah it kinda sounds like you ran out of gas
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Originally Posted by DankestKush
People in california drive 15 miles over the speed limit anyway. So 90 isn't that fast. People were passing me up, that dosent make what I did right but to me I Don't think about it cuz I'm used to everyone going fast anyway. And I was coming home from willow springs, so sorry I was still hyped up from the track. Yeah maybe I shouldn't have been driving like a maniac but did I kill anyone? No. Its not about what COULD happen, its about WHAT happened. And what happened was I got my karma and now I don't have a car, so my bad...geeez
hell ya we do brother just how it is in california wont see that in to many other states


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