RylAssassin

N/A

TII

RylAssassin

Please feel free to explain why you feel either car is a better drifter

benny_rx_blanco

NA,
Turbo is much harder to control in and especially out of a turn. NA's have a steady control of the rpm's while the turbo has BOOST, It is much more difficult to control the rpm's due to this. NA's are known to just be more responsive during drift due to the sensitiveness of being able to control an exact rpm as opposed to having to get the turbo to be just right.

It is a very deep subject and this is what my veiws are due to reading and driving, I'm 22 and have owned 5 rx7's.
2- 85's NA
1-87 NA
2-88's NA & Turbo
Benny

RylAssassin

cool hey dude where in mass are you??

RestoTII

I said NA for the same reason as benny

BDoty311

I also N/a because of the steady powerband. The n/a is also lighter which can help in drifting.

SPDST3R

just wondering... then why did Initial D used TII for drifting

Silkworm

Jeezus..

Because..
1. It's a FREAKING CARTOON

2. It's a FREAKING CARTOON

3. It's a FREAKING CARTOON.

Oh, and because Japan only had turbo model FCs.

PaulC

Prozac.. Where's my Prozac

driftracer

That's because they don't sell NA FCs in Japan.

Also Having more power helps in drifting if your turbo setup is such that it spools up quickly.

RylAssassin

Well Just cuz it was used in initial D doesent make it a better drifter. Plus i think the main reason is they never made N/A in Japan, and besides the TII is the more popular car

David88vert

It doesn't matter if it's a turbo or N/A at all. It's all about driver skill. The two types of cars are each handled differently. The turbo relies on quick acceleration, the n/a relies on cornering. Both can drift equally well. It just depends which style of drifting/driving you are better at (and enjoy more), as to which car to chose for you.

SPDST3R

ha ha ha i knew you were gonna say that. Hey Paul, I'd like to see your FC some day.

Silkworm

Where are you at? If you can get to SJ in the evening, sure, let me know when.

PaulC

SPDST3R

i'm also here in San Jo by Tully rd. I'll bring some of my friends too. I'm trying to get them into RX-7 crowd as well

Silkworm

K, e-mail me pcabana@newsguy.com for directions.

RylAssassin

David88vert Then lets say YOU drifted a N/A and then a TII around the same turn which would you get around that corner quicker? Thats what im trying to find out.
I can understand how much driver skill is involved here but lets say the same driver tested both cars and tried to get around those corners as fast as possible which would come out faster

scathcart

Drifting isn't about getting around corners the fastest. In fact, drifting is one of the slowest ways to take a corner.

Ni5mo180SX

Agreed

red xeven

This is a very good question. I have been pondering this question many times myself. I have been trying to figure out the gains of using the NA, or the turbo, and it's really hard to figure out. I'm thinking about going with a drift setup instead of a street/race setup, but i don't know for sure yet. The NA's last longer, and with proper tune can have plenty of horsepower, quite enough for drifting, but the turbo's can be equally tuned for drift specs. You just have to be more careful with your tuning. I dont know, but drifting is fun.

Rotorific

iTrader: (1)

If your not used to turbos then of course NAs are so much easier to drift but if you know the characteristics of turbos or really the boost then you can drift a t2 going straight

slidingsky

HEY ALL YOU GUYS WHO VOTED NA. Go out and try to find a decient LSD for one, unless you are lucky and yours still works. My 90TII slides alot better than my 86 NA with LSD. The NAs LSD was used and doesnt work properly. Sure the engine is more resopnsive but try and get a drivetrane like the TII, especially the 88TIIs 2way LSD. Get a stock TII 87-88 and just do suspension upgrades. Just my 2 cents though.

Silkworm

Easy, Miata Torsen, Speedsource can install for you.

next question?

red xeven

OR, if you want, you could just keep the NA engine, and swap turbo drivetrain, ever think of that slidingsky?

S2-13BT

Definately TII. The reason is because that is what the Japanese use. And let's face it, the japanese know what they're doing when it comes to drifting.

You really need to have a lot of power to keep the wheels spinning when your moving at near to 100mph sideways. The Japanese consider the S5 TII one of the best drifters in the same league as S13 Silvias and S15 Silvias. Basically you have to have a lot of torque.

RestoTII

First of all Power and Torque are two totally different beasts, but related by the RPM. Second, when yuor tires are spinning (such as in a drift), it doesn't take nearly as much torque to keep them spinning. There's alot lower load on each spinning tire compared to the load on them when they have traction. however, GETTING them spinning is the hard part as far as torque is concerned, and that's overcome by the quick turn-in at the beginning of the drift.
I'm still sticking with NA though, but I'm going to clarify more on why I say that. Not ust beacuse of the smooth powerband and the fact that it doesn't take *that* much power to drift, but after driving a TII and a 90GXL, I'd say the NA is much more predictable, which is always a bonus when doing something like drifting.

edit: Anyone ever watch their boost gauge while drifting, and/or spinning tires? I'm assuming the low load wouldn't spool the turbo much. Probably only a couple psi, which would tend to push the power/torque arguments aside