flamin-roids

I'm curious as to what mods will be compatible with a TII motor. Meaning if I get a haltech and injectors etc. and put them on my N/A for the time being. That way all the mods that I put into my N/A can go right on to the TII motor that will replace it when it dies. I already have a TII drivetrain so thats covered. And my motor is still real strong. I just don't want to invest in a lost cause. (which a N/A motor is unless you got money). So I want to upgrade my fuel system and computer for starts. But I will only do mods that will be interchangeable with a TII motor. Also If i run a haltech on my N/A can I use the original harness? And also what else can I do to my N/A that will be interchangeable with a TII motor.

DerangedHermit

scheistermeister

id also like to knoe!

flamin-roids

Mind explaining?

RXciting

if you do a little search as to what ppl have been doing with N/A motors. you'll find that some ppl have already been able to push 13 - 14 psi recently on the stock timing with stock ECU and a SAFC w/o blowing them up.. now 15 psi on a Streetported TII engine can get you just over 400 RWHP

so if you are gonna get a haltech and bigger injectors....

DerangedHermit

Saying an N/A is a lost cause unless you have a lot of money is a subjective statement. For $4000 I can get a rebuilt engine with a peripheral port putting out 270 hp (?, more?, just a random guess). You probably can't even do a TII swap for that much.

Aesop Rock

I've seen TII's purchased for under that price.

DerangedHermit

And? It sounds like he's doing the TII conversion, not buying a TII. Regardless, a TII doesn't put down 270hp. All I'm saying is that decking out a N/A isn't worthless depending on what kind of power you're wanting.

flamin-roids

And just how driveable would a PP motor be by the way? And you just can't PP a motor and get 270hp right off the bat. You might want to get a new e-shaft and some lighter rotors also. I'm not willing to deal with the major pain in the *** that comes with a PP. If the subject was race motors then yeah. But if you are going to PP then you have to do it right.

DerangedHermit

Never disputed that. If you actually read my post, all I'm saying is that N/A's aren't useless.

flamin-roids

And I said unless you have money. It isn't cheap to build a badass N/A motor. But it is cheap to go turbo. I would prefer to stay N/A but when you add up the cost it makes more sense to get a TII motor and swap.

Aesop Rock

but once you turbo, you can just upgrade fuel and turbo......N/A has a very short limit...

DerangedHermit

You think it's cheap to do the TII swap? Depending on your definition of cheap, you've been misinformed.

Aesop Rock

finally somethnig to agree upon, its going to cost around $4,000

$800 for the J-Spec engine
$1,000 for the rebuild
$1,000 for the standalone....

flamin-roids

Cost others around $4000 yes. Cost me around $4000 I don't think so. I can drop a FD motor in my car for about that much. Also wouldn't it make more sense to buy the entire car and part out what you don't need? Granted the TII is beat to ****. I'm going to show you guys something.

DerangedHermit

You already have some of the stuff required for the swap so it would be cheaper. In general though, the TII swap isn't necessarily better than using the same amount of money to mod a N/A engine.

flamin-roids

Here is a beat to **** '87 TII.

And here's the newly rebuilt motor it came with.


Costed me $100 because the guy didn't want to finish it. Granted its rare find. If the car was in decent shape I'd rebuild it but my '89 is much nicer. I also pulled the entire drivetrain out and did a 5 speed swap. I also made $600 off the car in parts. Not being a dick but where there is a will and patience there is an alternate solution.

DerangedHermit

Not all of us can find a $100 TII. In general, my statement still stands.

flamin-roids

It does. But I'm not allowed to spend loads of money on my car because I have a baby. I sold a GTU I bought for $800 for $2300 (it was worth more than that) and dropped $1500 into the car and came out even. Personnally I wouldn't spend over $2000 out of my own pocket for TII swap. I just find ways for it to pay for itself. If you are going to spend $4k+ on just a motor you might as well buy a nice TII for that much. Anyways back to finding out what mods are interchangable.

604Ryder

i didnt read every post so this might have been already said. but the N/A drivetrain is only good to about 200hp .... putting that much power into a N/A can cause alot of stress on the drivetrain. i think in the long run it would b cheaper to just do a TII swap (the complete swap) but on the other hand have a 300hp N/A monster that can rev past 10k would b a nice change :P