Omixeo

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It's cool having a GTUs because you can tell people there were only 1100 made, but it's not going to make it worth any more money. Maybe if it was the only model made in a given year then that would be worth money, but there were 250,000 S5's made. Trim levels aside, they are the same car.

drifting_gtus

All thats be side the point Im not trying to argue with any one. All im saying is look at all other collector cars how many different trim packages did they have. Every rx7 trim has the potential to become a high class collector like the muscle cars of old.

RETed

Oh, you could've fooled me...

While it is not impossible for it happen, it is highly probably that it won't.

It's very hard to be an enthusiasts and have an objective view of value of your vehicle.
Look at all the people who claim a Turbo II is worth $4k...$6k...
http://www.kbb.com/ doesn't think so.
I would never pay that much for a Turbo II.
Only reason being is that you can find one for less if you really look.
Again, being an enthusiasts, it's hard to contain your excitement and show a poker face to a potential seller.

Look at the market for COLLECTIBLE automobiles from JAPAN...
Look at the Datsun 240Z...
The other Japan collectible is the Toyota 2000GT - do you even know what this is?
...1st generation.
Made first in 1970.
The 240Z only started to get serious looks in the past 5 to 10 years, so the FC still has 5 to 10 more years to go.
The FC is NOT a 1st generation model.
There is NOTHING special about the GTUs trim in terms of power.
This is NOT an AMERICAN model, where you have more people interested in them.
The 1st gen RX-7 gets more attention in terms of collectors status than the FC does.
One of the more desirable SA22 models is the GSL-SE.
Do you even know about the "LE" (Limited Edition) model for an SA22?
Most RX-7 folks know about the GSL-SE but not the LE model.
The LE model has much lower production, but most people don't give a ****.

You're trying to justify your claims through your eyes, but the general public does not agree with you.
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder..."
By the time we can prove or disprove your theory on the collectors status on your GTUs, we'll all be dead and buried.


-Ted

clokker

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If you want to base predictions about the eventual value of a GTUs on the saleability of 240Z's, I can save you some time...it won't be worth jackshit.
My '71...

...was a Nissan certified "transition" car- it had both the b-pillar AND hatch airvents- and, at the time of sale, went with the installed 280 engine/5-speed tranny and the original, matching serial # 2.4L block.
I could barely give the thing away.
I know of a Fairlady Z (RHD) with a G-nose (factory extended fiberglass nose/hood w/ covered headlights) that's been for sale for 3 years with no serious bites.

For the Z's 25th anniversary Nissan was going to restore 200 1970 models and sell them through dealers.
They stopped at 40.
These were factory restored- from the shell out- cars, slated to be sold for $24K and even Nissan realized that the market wouldn't absorb them.

Moral of the story?
No matter how rare you think your car may be, buying and fixing it up based on it's assumed value in ten years is a waste of time.

Texas_Ace

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You could have given that 240z to me ;-), i would have taken it off yours hands for a few bucks! (aka, i have actually wanted one of them for awhile before i found my RX7) but the point still stands.

And that is that the Japanese cars collectors are in, what do you know, Japan. The American Collectors are in, what do you know again, America. Although the mustang was exported to the UK and Japan, guess what, they hardly care about it at all. Over there you can get them for dirt cheap. a buddy of mine was in Germany or the UK (I forgot which). He was able to buy a mustang GT500 for I think $500. He then worked with some friend to smuggle it back on an army flight and not has a GT500 that is worth about $50,000 - $100,000 depending on what he did to it. It even had matching numbers and a running engine and some low miles like 10k or something. I wish I knew what ever came of that car actually.

drifting_gtus

For your info my father is a second owner of a LE sa22. and if you would have read the back posts of this thread you would have read me say that i didn't expect my car to be worth any thing for at least 5 to 10 years so be for you speak you should you should make sure you not making a idiot out of your self. I under stand that my car may never be worth anything more than it is rite now but i hop it will thats I Iv said. The point of this thread is to find out if my car is a GTUs or a GTU not to debate with you half brained idiots, and thank you again Tex. You seam to be the only person on this forum thats under stands what I'm talking about.

RETed

Wow, he thinks he owned us...
Gimme some of that good **** you're smoking...


BTW, you type worse than a 5h grader.
It makes my head hurt trying to read what you're trying to say...


-Ted

TehMonkay

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It probably wont by 10 years, maybe not even 20, but eventually someone will want to pay the money for it.

RRTEC

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I like the GTUs they are rare, and they are cool to own. But like most people said, just drive it. With your user name leaning towards drifting you will probably wrap it around a pole anyways.

clokker

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The Smithsonian, maybe?
Seems to me that, given today's gas situation, you'd have to wonder if you'll even be able to get/afford fuel for a gas guzzler like the RX in 15-20 years.

Like I said before, get one and enjoy it now because trying to plan for the distant future is an exercise in futility.

j9fd3s

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it wont be worth anything much UNLESS its ORIGINAL (body and paint! no crappy mods) low miles is good too.

if you have some high mile car with an s4 engine and all the smog stuff is missing, its worthless

Omixeo

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Ok then, well off the top of my head, your car is a GTUs if it has the following.

No sunroof
A sticker in the door jam saying the stock tire size is 205/55/16
A VLSD with 4.30 gears
4 piston front brakes/vented rear brakes
Manual crank windows
Stock stereo has no cd or cassette
AC was optional
No rear wiper
No foglights
No cruise control
Aluminum hood


Thats all I can think of.

drifting_gtus

how can you tell if you have a 4.3 rear end

Roen

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Your question should probably read how do I tell if my car has a GTUs 5th gear AND a GTUs rearend?

Simple, take your car to 80 mph in 5th gear. Your tach should read 3500 rpm.

Check any of the internet gear speed calculators to verify.

drifting_gtus

thanks i didn't even notice the type o. after i fix my car Ill give it a try

Terrh

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this would also require a working and dead accurate FC tach.

I've never seen one yet. they all read several hundred RPM high from 1500rpm on.

Roen

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Mine reads about there at 80 mph, which is consistent with the projected amount from a calculator.

drifting_gtus

so i took it to 80 and i was at 3200rpm

Roen

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That means that either the ring and pinion (or possibly the rear end) or your tranny was swapped with a normal NA one.

You can run the numbers yourself if you want, using a gear speed calculator.

GTUs 5th gear: .756 compared to .697 for S5 NA's
GTUs Final Drive: 4.3 compared to 4.1 for S5 NA's

rowtareh?

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The cars from the 60's, and 70's never had the production numbers of what cars in the 90's had. For you to compare the value of a GTUs in 5-10 years and compare it with a Mustang or a Camaro from the past is just mind numbingly stupid. You should get smacked for that from my father.

Roen- You sell the GTUs yet?

Roen

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lol, I've put off the for sale prep for ages now, it's going back up soon, once I finish the prep. It's probably not going for anywhere near what I wanted originally, but that's life.

When are you coming out east? You should hang out with Brian and I, we'll introduce you to the HALALALALALAL aka the Flamethrower.

EDIT: Ninja edits rule.

rowtareh?

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I would say it's worth it, as long as it's stock. I need to look at that thread again and clean it up.

Roen

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Nah, just delete it, another will go up again soon, hopefully within a month or two.

rowtareh?

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You sure? Does not hurt to keep it open. It's not even on the 1st or 2nd page, so I gave up looking.