My Emissions Story
02-15-12, 04:14 PM
#26
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Mmkay. This is all just my opinion:
**** happens. Move on.
My Heater hose blew at 137,000 miles, in 2004. Hose was oil soaked, so I fixed the oil filter pedestal o-rings. It now does not leak. The new hose blew again anyway at 160,000 miles in 2011.
Heater hoses blow on 7's. Often. Other **** happens too.
I shredded the alternator belt on my 90 vert a 100+ degree day. I was driving 50 mph on the freeway. That 2 year old 10,000 mile alt belt took out the other belts and rendered my water pump non-op. I drove about a half mile and got off on an exit.
My 7 also overheated on the emission dyno last year. The efan to end all efans (Merc Villiager) didn't keep my engine cool on low speed due to pulling through the 3" core of my Griffin rad. I didn't run the A/C (which would have put the fan on high).
Each time the engine was alright because I use Evans Coolant. $50 per gallon and mine takes nearly 3 gallons due to the large radiator. Expensive? Yes, but it is the best buffer for overheating. It does not 'boil and puke' out of the radiator if you overheat. So the engine won't warp.
I'm sorry if your car is damaged, but life (and RX7's )comes with risk. YOU saw smoke or steam just before the technician overheated the car but YOU didn't speak up or act immediately:
You have on old, fragile car that is known for overheating vulnerabilities. Maybe the guy at the test station *is* a dick. Maybe he doesn't care as much about your car as you do. So what? He did NOT cause your hose to swell and burst. He did NOT cause your car to over-heat. He did NOT cause you to NOT react immediately. It is NOT his fault. It was YOUR swelled hose that burst on YOUR car.
You're wanting something for nothing. Life doesn't work that way.
Find something in your life to be grateful for and move on.
**** happens. Move on.
My Heater hose blew at 137,000 miles, in 2004. Hose was oil soaked, so I fixed the oil filter pedestal o-rings. It now does not leak. The new hose blew again anyway at 160,000 miles in 2011.
Heater hoses blow on 7's. Often. Other **** happens too.
I shredded the alternator belt on my 90 vert a 100+ degree day. I was driving 50 mph on the freeway. That 2 year old 10,000 mile alt belt took out the other belts and rendered my water pump non-op. I drove about a half mile and got off on an exit.
My 7 also overheated on the emission dyno last year. The efan to end all efans (Merc Villiager) didn't keep my engine cool on low speed due to pulling through the 3" core of my Griffin rad. I didn't run the A/C (which would have put the fan on high).
Each time the engine was alright because I use Evans Coolant. $50 per gallon and mine takes nearly 3 gallons due to the large radiator. Expensive? Yes, but it is the best buffer for overheating. It does not 'boil and puke' out of the radiator if you overheat. So the engine won't warp.
I'm sorry if your car is damaged, but life (and RX7's )comes with risk. YOU saw smoke or steam just before the technician overheated the car but YOU didn't speak up or act immediately:
You have on old, fragile car that is known for overheating vulnerabilities. Maybe the guy at the test station *is* a dick. Maybe he doesn't care as much about your car as you do. So what? He did NOT cause your hose to swell and burst. He did NOT cause your car to over-heat. He did NOT cause you to NOT react immediately. It is NOT his fault. It was YOUR swelled hose that burst on YOUR car.
You're wanting something for nothing. Life doesn't work that way.
Find something in your life to be grateful for and move on.
So, let me get this right. If you were an automotive technician and were running someones car on a dyno and it started billowing smoke and a buzzer turned on that said "low coolant" you wouldn't shut it off?
Makes sense to just let it eat, right? I don't think so. The shop needs to accept liability for their poor quality tech.
Hoses do burst, and warning lights come on. When they do you shut it down. He deserves some kind of compensation.
02-15-12, 05:42 PM
#27
So, let me get this right. If you were an automotive technician and were running someones car on a dyno and it started billowing smoke and a buzzer turned on that said "low coolant" you wouldn't shut it off?
Makes sense to just let it eat, right? I don't think so. The shop needs to accept liability for their poor quality tech.
Hoses do burst, and warning lights come on. When they do you shut it down. He deserves some kind of compensation.
Makes sense to just let it eat, right? I don't think so. The shop needs to accept liability for their poor quality tech.
Hoses do burst, and warning lights come on. When they do you shut it down. He deserves some kind of compensation.
Personal responsibility ain't just for republicans!
02-15-12, 06:03 PM
#28
Is there any sign that the car in question actually needs a rebuild? I'd guesstimate 90% of vehicles (RX7's excluded) would be able to take a quick trip up the temp gauge with no ill effects. Should the tech know every car, ex. how the S5 temp gauge is worthless and only moves after the engine has fatally overheated? He was slow to react, to the situation, but you said you also dismissed the early symptoms. The delay on the low coolant buzzer also doesn't help your case for negligence. Unless you can prove the engine was destroyed in those few seconds, you're going to have a hard time getting them to pay.
Also, if you're going after him for not inspecting the engine, you aren't going to get far. You said that you inspected the engine bay AFTERWARD and didn't see anything obviously wrong.
If they gave you 20% of the rebuild cost would be extremely generous given that the burden of proof is on the accuser.
Also, if you're going after him for not inspecting the engine, you aren't going to get far. You said that you inspected the engine bay AFTERWARD and didn't see anything obviously wrong.
If they gave you 20% of the rebuild cost would be extremely generous given that the burden of proof is on the accuser.
02-15-12, 06:57 PM
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I went in today and just talked to them and sort of worked things out. I guess just the situation I am in got the best of me and I was trying to over-hype myself to get what I wanted out of it, but all in all I will be just happy if I get the car running and I don't get anything from them. There are no true signs that the engine is toast, I just freaked out because I didn't know how well it would turn out given the severeness of over-heating a rotary.
I have the spare parts to fix it though, so tomorrow I'll be pulling it into the shop and trying to work it out. I have my fingers crossed hoping it will be fine.
I have the spare parts to fix it though, so tomorrow I'll be pulling it into the shop and trying to work it out. I have my fingers crossed hoping it will be fine.
02-15-12, 08:10 PM
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So, let me get this right. If you were an automotive technician and were running someones car on a dyno and it started billowing smoke and a buzzer turned on that said "low coolant" you wouldn't shut it off?
Makes sense to just let it eat, right? I don't think so. The shop needs to accept liability for their poor quality tech.
Hoses do burst, and warning lights come on. When they do you shut it down. He deserves some kind of compensation.
Makes sense to just let it eat, right? I don't think so. The shop needs to accept liability for their poor quality tech.
Hoses do burst, and warning lights come on. When they do you shut it down. He deserves some kind of compensation.
So what I would do IF I were an automotive tech is irrelevant. I'm not an automotive emission tech and I really cannot imagine being one...
I *am* a car owner. The tech at the shop where I have my car e-checked is a pretty good guy. He has done my e-check for a number of years. Private shop (it's the way it's done in Texas). Young guy. His dad owns a couple of other shops. When my car overheated on the dyno, I was watching and I stopped it. I came back the next day and finished the test with my car capable of withstanding the test.
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