is my car slow?
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Originally posted by Felix Wankel
16's aren't "quick". My modded out NA wasn't "quick". To me, "quick" doesn't start till at least low 14s...... I guess I've been around actual fast cars too long
16's aren't "quick". My modded out NA wasn't "quick". To me, "quick" doesn't start till at least low 14s...... I guess I've been around actual fast cars too long
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Here is my two cents....
I think that maybe it could be factors such as where you engaging the clutch on the tach. Ideally you need to be dumping about 3k to 4k. Rotaries love the high revs!
Also it could be the shifting, are you shifting slow or trying to find gears? How many miles on your car?
Is your clutch old? It could be slipping more if it is too old.
With your mods you should be running neck and neck. Those v-techs aren't real hot in the low revs but they are nice in the high revs! Just like our cars. Your friend is probably winding his engine real tight and dumping the clutch! You should do the same.
Also it could be the shifting, are you shifting slow or trying to find gears? How many miles on your car?
Is your clutch old? It could be slipping more if it is too old.
With your mods you should be running neck and neck. Those v-techs aren't real hot in the low revs but they are nice in the high revs! Just like our cars. Your friend is probably winding his engine real tight and dumping the clutch! You should do the same.
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A mid 90's Prelude V-Tec SHOULD beat you. They're faster than the new ones.
With CAI and straight exhaust they're probably around 203-207fwhp.
Get the right driver that launches high rpm near camlobe switchover; and keeps it there, and they're quick enuf...
With CAI and straight exhaust they're probably around 203-207fwhp.
Get the right driver that launches high rpm near camlobe switchover; and keeps it there, and they're quick enuf...
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All this Bullshit about N/As being slow.... My n/a has ran everthing up here i have come across by many car lengths.. 98' modded camaro z28s, porsches, turbo 300zxs, modded 5.0s new Gts u name it. My car has just about all boltons nothing else. Its all about launchin and shiftin and rpms. And everyoe iv'e raced has had automatics and iv'e raced the many times, so no flukes... I haves seen cars that should be runnin high 12's low 13's stock at the tracks run 15's and 16's. ok. thats the botton line.
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I am on my 3rd RX-7, my first was a crazy 1st gen with a full Eribuni Body kit- flares and all. I had an 88 GXL, and I currently have a 90 GXL.
I have to admit the 88 GXL was slow. It was in PERFECT shape, bone stock. It ran perfectly, VERY smooth, no problems at all, but just kindof slow. It's all about the whole package of the car. The way it all comes together as each component of the car performs at it's own peak. Give that car 75 more HP and it would be overpowering the drivetrain and suspension. Beef up the drivetrain and suspension and you loose some of the agility and soul of the car- It's all about the final sum of the part- not the induvidual values.
My 90 is a different story- stock it is pretty fun, lots more guts than the 88, but not exactly a hard charging speed demon. Once I opened it up with the porting, blah blah (check my sig for a few of em) It really turned into a fast car! Still got to keep the RPM's up to be in the powerband though.
Oh, and about that 'tard that was calling all N/A's slow early in the post- I've worked very hard on my car, and I've smoked every TII I've come against. I'll race him any time, and I won't drive back home with a blown engine. He probably just bought a fast car to try and compensate for lacking in another department...
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I have to admit the 88 GXL was slow. It was in PERFECT shape, bone stock. It ran perfectly, VERY smooth, no problems at all, but just kindof slow. It's all about the whole package of the car. The way it all comes together as each component of the car performs at it's own peak. Give that car 75 more HP and it would be overpowering the drivetrain and suspension. Beef up the drivetrain and suspension and you loose some of the agility and soul of the car- It's all about the final sum of the part- not the induvidual values.
My 90 is a different story- stock it is pretty fun, lots more guts than the 88, but not exactly a hard charging speed demon. Once I opened it up with the porting, blah blah (check my sig for a few of em) It really turned into a fast car! Still got to keep the RPM's up to be in the powerband though.
Oh, and about that 'tard that was calling all N/A's slow early in the post- I've worked very hard on my car, and I've smoked every TII I've come against. I'll race him any time, and I won't drive back home with a blown engine. He probably just bought a fast car to try and compensate for lacking in another department...
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Originally posted by 1Revvin7
My n/a has ran everthing up here i have come across by many car lengths.. 98' modded camaro z28s, porsches, turbo 300zxs, modded 5.0s new Gts u name it. My car has just about all boltons nothing else. Its all about launchin and shiftin and rpms. And everyoe iv'e raced has had automatics and iv'e raced the many times, so no flukes... I haves seen cars that should be runnin high 12's low 13's stock at the tracks run 15's and 16's. ok. thats the botton line.
My n/a has ran everthing up here i have come across by many car lengths.. 98' modded camaro z28s, porsches, turbo 300zxs, modded 5.0s new Gts u name it. My car has just about all boltons nothing else. Its all about launchin and shiftin and rpms. And everyoe iv'e raced has had automatics and iv'e raced the many times, so no flukes... I haves seen cars that should be runnin high 12's low 13's stock at the tracks run 15's and 16's. ok. thats the botton line.
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I have beet the z28s. 4 different porches, numerous hondas ( all modded), I jsut can't beat the modded tubos and nos. I have no poting done, estensive lightening, just about all the bolt ons. working on porting the intake, and removing the MAF. then a new puter, elevtric water pump, change the MSD to Jacobs Pro, Tehn I might think about porting and mabey even NOS.
I will bet when I am done I will beat even most modded tIIs. it is all about repose time and turbos can't hang with n/a's when it comes to response to throttle input.
I am not just talking smack I have seen very fast n/a's.
I saw a modded n/a Camero V6 beat a 300z TT. I don't know if the z had troble I just watched the race. That is saying a lot from me I never say good things about bowties.
I will bet when I am done I will beat even most modded tIIs. it is all about repose time and turbos can't hang with n/a's when it comes to response to throttle input.
I am not just talking smack I have seen very fast n/a's.
I saw a modded n/a Camero V6 beat a 300z TT. I don't know if the z had troble I just watched the race. That is saying a lot from me I never say good things about bowties.
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I just wish more people would dyno there cars. I say anything under 180hp is slow. Anything above 180 is peppy. 220-250 is quick. 300 is quicker, but still not enough. 450hp is just about right.
I can't tell you how many turbo cars i beat in my old n/a 13b. (Blake now has it in a FB, for the 2002 challenge.) So what if i was shifting it at 11k rpms. So what if i ran a 13.9@109.27 with tire spin all the way into 3rd gear, without nitrous. (205/50/15s) Did i mention it was a 13B peripheral port engine?
My only regret of the time i owned the motor, was that i did'nt take it to the track with the nitrous. The 150shot would of put me probably in the 12s at 120.
I don't know this for a fact or anything....but just a guess. CJ
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I can't tell you how many turbo cars i beat in my old n/a 13b. (Blake now has it in a FB, for the 2002 challenge.) So what if i was shifting it at 11k rpms. So what if i ran a 13.9@109.27 with tire spin all the way into 3rd gear, without nitrous. (205/50/15s) Did i mention it was a 13B peripheral port engine?
My only regret of the time i owned the motor, was that i did'nt take it to the track with the nitrous. The 150shot would of put me probably in the 12s at 120.
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Originally posted by pp13bnos
I just wish more people would dyno there cars. I say anything under 180hp is slow. Anything above 180 is peppy. 220-250 is quick. 300 is quicker, but still not enough. 450hp is just about right.
I just wish more people would dyno there cars. I say anything under 180hp is slow. Anything above 180 is peppy. 220-250 is quick. 300 is quicker, but still not enough. 450hp is just about right.
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