Dan H

You're in St. Louis. Paint jobs in the bay area cost considerably more for a top quality paint job.

tomm

"Top quality" would be the same here in price. What I was applying was a paint job of that caliper would me a waste on a car of that value.
That a 1,200 dollar paint job would be more than sufficient unless he wanted to put the car into shows or something.

Bluewind

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I wouldn't buy the car. If a car is only primerd you'd have to ask yourself, "What's hiding under there?" Say I bought your car, I'd personally sand off all that crap to see if any cancer, or if someone went crazy on the putty, is being hidden underneath the primer. Another point is why isn't the car painted? You go through the trouble of sanding down the car filing in the low/ sanding the high spots, removing any cancer, or dents to suddenly make a half *** effort to prime the car but not paint it? No. Most likely it's a half *** job of preping the car before it's painted, so I would have to go back and do it properly. All in all, Two simple words that should haunt you: "Earl Scheib"

wayfastwhitey

I BOUGHT AN 86 GXL WITH A STRAIGHT BODY, PERFECT RUNNING CONDITION, T2 HOOD T2 SPOILER AND A TRASHED INTERIOR FOR 300 CASH, AND I SEE YOU SHOP AT TOYS R US, NICE AVATAR WHERE ARE THE LITTLE JAPANEESE DUDES THAT CAME WITH THAT MODEL KIT LOL!!! IN ALL SERIOUSNESS I WOULD PAY AROUND $1K-$1.5K IN ITS CONDITION

adrock3217

Umm..if I'm not mistaken, Bluewind, FelixWankel88 is 15 and has been working on this car for 1-2 years. There is nothing to hide, every step of everything he has done has been detailed as writeups, and with extensive pics / movie clips. Everyone who has followed it knows everything it has to ... "hide." And as for why he didn't paint it. Felix has never paid more then (I'm gonna make a rough estimate on what I've seen and heard from him) 700 dollars for one part / car. Maybe less. But a 2000+ paint job is not exactly in his budget at the moment. And if you want to see what's under the primer, do a search for "Project Skittle" to see more then you could've wanted.

SidewaysFC

damn ...what cruel world the rx7 community is.

Icemark

No, not at all.

I called every body and paint shop in my area (North San Fran Bay area) and the lowest paint job (maaco) was $500, while almost everyone else was $2500-$3000. I did find one guy in Valeao (who was a buddies friend) that would do it for $1500, if I was willing to leave the car for 6 weeks.

This is painting a FC coupe that is stripped, with no glass (except windsheild) no interior, no body work to be done, no trim to mask, no hatch, no engine, no harnesses, no lights, all the rubber (bumpers, body mouldings, spoiler) taken off so they can be spray'd seperate, and no re-assembly of anything. This all with a mid quality two stage Urathane (just like the factory paint).

So I guess in your part of the world, painting in much cheaper, or you and I have a complete difference of what a "pretty nice" mid-quality paint job is.

RockLobster

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Paint jobs vary quite a bit, region to region. To have everything done including dissasembly and reassembly in th Minneapolis area by a deccent shop woulid be 4500$ (not including any parts needed that are damaged or broken durring dissasembly)

The Maacos around here will also do it for as little as 400$ but will do a wide range of services. Which is nice. Basically they can do a good job but you just have to pay for it. Most places wont let it in the door unless they can do thier top quality work which is admirable but not necessarilly practical for these cars unless it is a show car or a low millage collector.

I am likely gonig to negotiate a mid quality polyurithane job from maaco and only spend 1g or so, for my track car. Thats with me doing everything but the final sanding, masking, priming & painting.

tomm

I see what your saying. Maybe paint jobs are on average a grand higher on the west coast than here. Locally Ive seen pretty nice paint jobs(what I would like on my car for about 3,000 grand) and top notch for about 5,000 and up.
However what I meant was that for an FC that isnt worth more than 1,500; $3000 would be over kill. IMO

Ive seen paint jobs for about 1,500 around here that I would put on his car if it was mine. (Not show quality, but way better tan primer).

Nick86

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There is always a huge difference in:

A) What the car is worth.

and

B) What the car is worth to you.


My car is worth far more to me than I can get for it in dollar terms.



May I ask what your arguement was re value of your car? What did you think it was worth vs what did the other guy think it was worth?

felixwankel88

agreed, the other person thought i could get 1500 max, and i was thinkinh 2500-3000 where im locateed at cuz fcs around here go for WAYYY more than they are worth.. example a dealer here sold a 88gxl for 7k... ummmm yahhh... but i guess i lost my little arguement

Schmitty

iTrader: (11)

people pay dumb prices for rx7 in the north east... two average t2s sold in my area for $4500 and $5500... a couple of n/a coupes have sold for $3000 and a convertable sold for $7000. and Fd prices are rediculus...somebody wants 27k for their 94 or 95.

Nick86

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It's all supply and demmand.

The same car will sell for wildly different prices depending on when and where you sell it. I always wonder why there are so many "How much can I sell my car for" or "Would you pay this much?" threads on this board. For example, where the climate is nice year round, there will be many good shape Rx7's around and their value will be somewhat reduced. In places like the north east - where it snows and they salt the roads, a rust free non winter driven Rx7 is much rarer, and the price will be higher. A $2000 car in Atlanta could get twice that in Syracuse. And that doesn't even take into account the actual amount of cars that are available.

So if you really want to know what your car is worth in your area, pick up an auto trader and compare prices. You might find out that all primer SE's are going for $4500 in your area.

TwistedRotors

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I payed $7800 for my '87 TII. 1 owner, garage kept, 27,000 original miles, bone stock, immaculate..........if I found another like that, I'd do it again. :-)
-John

aznpoopy

here's what i see

slightly repaired
mostly stock
high mileage n/a
primer exterior
some rx7 cosmetics

$1500-$2000 tops

the primer exterior really kills what you can get

Bluewind

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This is one person's car in which you know. I'm making a broad statement about cars such as his. Perhaps I make an exception to his case, prove me wrong about cars that show up in conditions such as this. Are they all 15 year olds who are poor? Also being that you quoted that he has never spent more than $700 on any one part troubles me even more than give him any sort of credibility. Did he pick up Dad's paint brush and leftover primer and slapped it on the car them? If you cannot do something right the first time, do not do it at all. Felix asked a question to how much he could get for his car, and I gave him an honest and frank answer.

felixwankel88

first of all, im not poor, thats a fact, second the primer waz sprayed with a air gun..Third just becauase i buy a haggard pos car to Fix up (they call it a hobbie) because i enjoy working on it.. if i wanted to get a 2006 subaru wrx i could get one, but i enjoy the rotary motor, and second i ENJOY working on my carENJOYYYY it a way to have fun... so i disagree with your staTEMENT 100% just because itz a shitty car doensent mean your poor

SidewaysFC

first of all, if you plan to paint the rx7. dont do it. even if you did, i garuntee youll be lowballed still ...its the world of rx7s.

felixwankel88

i dont ever plan to sell it, so it dont really matter

kim307

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$1500 at most.

ddub

It's hard to say.

The fact that it's primer lowers the price a little, if it was painted that'd be different, but as stated by a lot of people paint is expensive and some people that see primered cars wonder if it was done properly, prepped, sanded, etc. I'm not questioning whether you did or not, or saying it was done badly or anything, but that's just what some people think when they see it regardless of what really happened.

The engine being rebuilt helps, and the fact you have documentation of the checking and clearancing of seals and such also helps.

Most of the parts are just stock parts, so that doesn't matter much except that some people like s5 body more and may pay more money for the conversion you did.

Fix the last few things, get it painted/cleaned up, and then it'll be worth more

Dan H

Actually, a top quality paint job would be about 4 or 5 grand and up around here. But I do agree that it is a bit too much to spend on this particular car. But if it were a nice low mileage TII thats been sat in the sun for too long or a built up show car, then its ok.

Yeah, it does suck a little since everything in the bay area costs more. Like how an $800K will buy you an average to decent house here, but will buy you a mansion somewhere else.

NAVDREG

You can keep the items below as I wouldn't need them .. In fact you can also remove the doors,
rear hatch window
front windshield
steering wheel
dash, glove box, wiper blades.
T2 hood
S5 fenders
S5 front bumper
S5 rear bumper
s5 moldings
S5 Coupe wheels
all emmisoin removed
Falken Tires

I dont need any of these things from this line up... Everything else I could use... like this you can make money by parting out the rest. Sounds like a plan... in fact I dont even need the shell of the car.. and I would still make it worth your while.

Interested ? Let me know... send me a PM

adrock3217

He's not selling the car :P

KompressorLOgic

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it would sell for 1500 no problem, you might find a ricer who would pay up to 2500 if you look hardenuf