MAZDATRIX proves 28% increase in HP w/exhaust system ALONE!
06-26-02 | 01:50 PM
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MAZDATRIX proves 28% increase in HP w/exhaust system ALONE!
Abecx, read and weep.
I emailed MAZDATRIX about this for a dyno, they sent me back PROOF for your ignorant ***.
This is what they replied with :
I emailed MAZDATRIX about this for a dyno, they sent me back PROOF for your ignorant ***.
This is what they replied with :
We used a "percentage" increase instead of "raw" horsepower numbers because chassis dyno's vary tremendously, and too many of them seem extremely optimistic on their numbers.
The attached photo is from our printed catalog -- I have never been satisfied with a digital version of that chart, so it has never been put on the website.
As mentioned above (dyno variations), the dyno we used showed 96hp at the rear wheel on a good running, bone stock '86 GXL. With our dual exhaust, it showed 123hp (28% increase). I am sure many will instantly jump on that 123 number, and say "so and so" has a system that is MUCH better because it makes 195hp at the rear wheel. In order for ANY changes to be realistically evaluated, before AND after runs MUST be made, in fairly close environmental conditions, on the same car, and on the same dyno!
I have the system on my stock GXL, and I drive other RX7's all day long -- the increase in substantial.
On the "forum", see if you can get a response from anyone who already has the system.
A "discussion" of dual versus single versus RB/HKS/Apexi/etc. versus 2" versus 2.25" versus 2.5" etc. seems to be going on almost continuously (either on the "forum", or nopistons.com, or "the list" etc.), and someone with our dual system usually joins in.
Dave --
The attached photo is from our printed catalog -- I have never been satisfied with a digital version of that chart, so it has never been put on the website.
As mentioned above (dyno variations), the dyno we used showed 96hp at the rear wheel on a good running, bone stock '86 GXL. With our dual exhaust, it showed 123hp (28% increase). I am sure many will instantly jump on that 123 number, and say "so and so" has a system that is MUCH better because it makes 195hp at the rear wheel. In order for ANY changes to be realistically evaluated, before AND after runs MUST be made, in fairly close environmental conditions, on the same car, and on the same dyno!
I have the system on my stock GXL, and I drive other RX7's all day long -- the increase in substantial.
On the "forum", see if you can get a response from anyone who already has the system.
A "discussion" of dual versus single versus RB/HKS/Apexi/etc. versus 2" versus 2.25" versus 2.5" etc. seems to be going on almost continuously (either on the "forum", or nopistons.com, or "the list" etc.), and someone with our dual system usually joins in.
Dave --
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06-26-02 | 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by exquivical
Anyone have a link to mazdatrix to where they list the full exhaust system as a package? OR all the parts needed to replace the entire exhaust system with Mazdatrix's system.
Anyone have a link to mazdatrix to where they list the full exhaust system as a package? OR all the parts needed to replace the entire exhaust system with Mazdatrix's system.
***Ohhh... BTW, for the TII it's a 32% (59hp) increase with a full exhuast... I bet Abecx will want proof on that one too
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06-26-02 | 02:06 PM
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Thanks man.
For anyone that's lazy like me:
16-MZTX-0010HKS..EXHAUST SYSTEM DUAL...86-92 N/T W/HKS REAR..$1438.00
16-MZTX-0010RB...EXHAUST SYSTEM DUAL...86-92 N/T W/RB REAR...$1235.00
16-MZTX-0020HKS..EXHAUST SYSTEM SNGLE..86-92 N/T W/HKS REAR..$1058.00
16-MZTX-0020RB...EXHAUST SYSTEM SNGLE..86-92 N/T W/RB REAR...$ 979.00
For anyone that's lazy like me:
16-MZTX-0010HKS..EXHAUST SYSTEM DUAL...86-92 N/T W/HKS REAR..$1438.00
16-MZTX-0010RB...EXHAUST SYSTEM DUAL...86-92 N/T W/RB REAR...$1235.00
16-MZTX-0020HKS..EXHAUST SYSTEM SNGLE..86-92 N/T W/HKS REAR..$1058.00
16-MZTX-0020RB...EXHAUST SYSTEM SNGLE..86-92 N/T W/RB REAR...$ 979.00
06-26-02 | 02:09 PM
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My cousin which is a Mustang head said that there was noway that the RB turbo back exhaust would give me 60hp at the wheels and it took me buying it and a stock exhaust run and then RB exhaust run to prove to him that it could make 60hp. When it was stock it ran at best with intercooler iced down 14.7@93mph with RB exhaust no ice and slipping clutch (due to power gain) ran a 13.8@101mph
06-26-02 | 02:13 PM
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OMG, he never stops does he?
MY GOD. IT says "DUAL EXHUAST COMPARISON" on the chart. It also says MAZDATRIX. HE also said it's a 86 GXL. There is a MPEG of it running. wanna see it?
HERE IT IS MUCHER F*CKER!
http://www.mazdatrix.com/pictures/racing/exhaustrb.mpg
MY GOD. IT says "DUAL EXHUAST COMPARISON" on the chart. It also says MAZDATRIX. HE also said it's a 86 GXL. There is a MPEG of it running. wanna see it?
HERE IT IS MUCHER F*CKER!
http://www.mazdatrix.com/pictures/racing/exhaustrb.mpg
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06-26-02 | 02:18 PM
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ok *******, next time i go out racing (tonight) i'll bring a vid cam and find a mustang GT or 5.0 and i'll BLOW HIS ****** DOORS OFF!
BUt I guess that still won't make you beleive
----ANd if you're sooo discontent with the 60RWHP that turd you have is putting out, i told ya, $100 i'll take it off your hands
BUt I guess that still won't make you beleive
----ANd if you're sooo discontent with the 60RWHP that turd you have is putting out, i told ya, $100 i'll take it off your hands
06-26-02 | 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by AbecX
That means nothing, show me the car that they used to dyno it on. You guys are retarded, even then 130hp to the wheels
That means nothing, show me the car that they used to dyno it on. You guys are retarded, even then 130hp to the wheels