Making Hp in a NA
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im sure you can make over 200hp on a s5 na engine with a custom intake manifold with the stock ports and the standered exhaust mods. Just look at the stock NA manifold, do you think thats maybe a little restriction? the air has to make a complete 'S' before it even gets to the engine, and im sure all the coners the air has to take is not a smooth path either.
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Originally posted by n4ji
HA, oh the irony... Aaron Cake's WAS an N/A....
HA, oh the irony... Aaron Cake's WAS an N/A....
Seems like he has taken more heat over it than gotten any applaud for it.. (at least via the threads I've seen).
Essentially the difference between his engine and a regular TII engine is the static compression. Everyone one seems to say "Why didn't you just get a TII?" well.. it's his project.. theres nothing wrong with higher compression on a turbo, you just have to know what your doing, and prevent detonation, etc.
It's not like he just slapped on a spool and went away.. He has an SAFC, bigger fuel pump, injectors, the works.
So, he's running the same amount of boost as stock TIIs, but has more compression, which as far as I've learned, would mean more power, right?
Unless I'm missing something drastic between a TII and NA (biggest difference is compresion.. don't "6 port" me! ), or have been wrongfully misinformed about the project..
Just had to get that out.. been brewing for a while.
I would say if you want to do anything to your N/A engine, try a turbo project such as Aaron Cake's.
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Originally posted by Black13B
I don't understand the controversy over Aaron Cake's TIINA.
Seems like he has taken more heat over it than gotten any applaud for it.. (at least via the threads I've seen).
I don't understand the controversy over Aaron Cake's TIINA.
Seems like he has taken more heat over it than gotten any applaud for it.. (at least via the threads I've seen).
Essentially the difference between his engine and a regular TII engine is the static compression. Everyone one seems to say "Why didn't you just get a TII?" well.. it's his project.. theres nothing wrong with higher compression on a turbo, you just have to know what your doing, and prevent detonation, etc.
So, he's running the same amount of boost as stock TIIs, but has more compression, which as far as I've learned, would mean more power, right?
Unless I'm missing something drastic between a TII and NA (biggest difference is compresion.. don't "6 port" me! ), or have been wrongfully misinformed about the project..
I would say if you want to do anything to your N/A engine, try a turbo project such as Aaron Cake's.
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Originally posted by Aaron Cake
The only "hard part" that is the same between the 13B and the 13BT is the eccentric shaft. Everything else is different.
The only "hard part" that is the same between the 13B and the 13BT is the eccentric shaft. Everything else is different.
Hmm. I didn't know this.. Rotors (compression), Housings (Exhaust Baffles), LIM and UIM, Exhaust, meh.. That's the meat of it, so I guess I wasn't thinking on the proper plane.. Essentially though, biggest difference is the static compression right?
I don't recommend that.
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You can make HP in NA form with increased compression ratio, increased volumetric and / or thermal efficiency, fuel mixture fine tuning, porting intake manifolds and the air flow meter, porting the engine's intake runners and intake ports, porting the exhaust port and removing the diffusers, buying a header, fabbing a ram air intake, buying and installing underdrive pulleys, correctly installing an electic fan with a temp switch, playing with the ignition timing to help whatever rpm range you want to pull better (advanced timing helps the top end while stock timing is designed for good midrange), and last but not least, tuning up the entire fuel injection and ignition system.
In other words, it's all in the details.
In other words, it's all in the details.
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