all the cars i've seen with cut springs bounce like hell......i call it the ricer bounce.......how does THAT not affect handling?

 

Cutting the springs evenly on all four corners is where the problem for handling is.
Left front may bounce and react different than the right causing strange things.

 

who here thinks the OP cut the springs evenly?

 

hell he is a thickheaded teenager that had a torch to play with. who can honestly say that they wouldnt go burn something with a torch when they were 18 and think ups takes too long to do anything?

cut springs isnt that big of a deal.

 

at 18 years of age, he's more concerned about picking up young chicks that prefer the bounciness of improperly lowered cars. People, dont you remember when YOU were 18? You knew everything, and everyone else was an idiot.

 

Wrong, all the excessively lowered cars you've seen bounce like hell. You can achieve the same bouncy result with adjustable platforms (or even airbags). You've probably seen cars with cut springs and not even realised it because the car wasn't lowered much. I can assure you my Cosmo did not bounce at all.

This is a very simple concept. Why is is so hard to understand?

How is cutting the same amount from each spring going to produce different results? That makes no sense.

Like any mod, doing it wrong can be a very big deal. Cutting out too much is the obvious and common mistake. If the springs aren't captive at full suspension travel they can pop out and cause havoc. Accidents have been caused because of this, not to mention the terrible handling caused by slammed suspension. Cut springs are illegal over here for that very reason. It used to be legal as long as the springs were retained (wired or tabbed) but some people couldn't even do that right so they were banned entirely.

 

^ although this is very true, some teenagers understand the logic of having a car that doesn't bounce all over the road. If you are going to lower your car do it right the first time. Also when you lower your car it is a good idea to go with different struts and shocks.(dampers) The stock ones can bottom out, and it will handle so shitty. alot of my friends have lowered cars, and some of them handle like **** everywhere they drive because the stock dampers are blown from being overworked

 

that arrow was pointing to drivarotor's post

 

He's still 4 lug but wants to invest in new springs? I'm not on the 2nd gen section enough to know if this has already been discussed... but the 5 lug conversion was really simple and not that expensive... and now I was able to get better wheels that aren't just universals that could fit a civic.

Fone dial rims = FTL. Especially if you're all about having the car lowered! Hopefully the 5 lug is somewhere on your agenda... or at least new wheels.

 

you guys would hate me cause I drive my car stupid with cut springs in the rear but the crappy ebay teins weren't good enough and now it's lower and stiffer in the back, but I will get coilovers. Plus I finally know how to work on these cars the right way so no worries here :P And I drive it the right way!

 

whats with everyone and hating the cut springs!? i have em, they're fine...lowering springs arent gonna have any less of a negative camber effect that cutting ur coils...its still a lower ride height...you still need camber adjusters...etc...

 

if you have a 160 dollars you can buy Tanabes GF210's. I have them and theyre nice.

 

On my TII (stolen ) i cut my rear Eibachs. Not too much tho. I only cut i think it was a half coil on the top. Its pretty much a dead coil anyway. I had no bouncing at all. It just got rid of that "raked" look.

Its obviously NOT lowered too much. It handled great for just having springs. Lower it any more and it would be bouncing through turns. NO fun when you're going through twisties with no guard rails!!

 

^^thats still one of the nicest FCs i've seen. Whatever you did, you did it right.

 

cut springs is a no no even if temporary

 

Can you give a proper engineering explantion for that statement or are you just mindlessly repeating what others have said?

 

for the MOST part springs are designed to have a certain tolerance of material volume to load carrying capacity..........the amount of steel used in the spring is hopefully just enough to hold up the car over the life of the vehicle with normal use. cut off some coils and you've dramatically reduced the amount of material...................which almost always will lead to an overstressed coil that will sag prematurely.

 

Ok. As long as the tire is basically flat on the ground at ride height, it will wear 100% normally, it doesnt matter how low the f**kin car is, just as long as all of your geometry is right. Cutting the spring changes its overall spring rate and the shocks will not be in balance with the springs which can cause a bad ride or whatever. And why the hell would you ever cut springs when you can buy them for so cheap?

 

MAN! Those are ugly *** rims!! A different choice of wheels would have made all the difference for your car. I wouldn't want to been seen in public with those.

 

Not only do I think this is a highly dubious reason, you're making the same dumb assumption as all the critics above are making: that you're cutting half the spring away. This is simply WRONG! If you "drasticalyl reduce" the length of the spring, long-term sagging is going to be the least of your worries. If you're only cutting away enough for a small height adjustment, there will still be plenty of strength left in the spring.

Because free is still a lot cheaper than "cheap". Plus it allows minor height adjustments if you need it. Not all aftermarket springs will give you exactly what you want.

 

his car is one of the cleanest on the forum i wouldnt hate on them especially been off topic how you are doing bud

 

What the hell? Don't you have the same rims? SSR MKII?

 

the remedy:
1. very clean s4 TII (i love keeping cars stock looking)
2. rare SSR MKIIs
3. scott dukes photography

 

[QUOTE=Because free is still a lot cheaper than "cheap". Plus it allows minor height adjustments if you need it. Not all aftermarket springs will give you exactly what you want.[/QUOTE]

EXACTLY. cutting a dead coil to drop it a bit does nothing to any performance.

 

FC3S Murray bought those off of me. thats why he's LOLing!

also...my car WAS one of the cleanest FCs on here. especially S4