looking 4 nice vented hood
#51
I'm seriously going to put a request into the mods for you.
So you're saying
A) A vented hood only belongs on a race car
B) A little rain water is catosrophic if it lands on an intercooler
C) According to AE the vent needs to be roughy 29% of the size of the core, yeah, that requires a huge amount, say half the ******* hood to be cut out right there
D) We all know you envy me. It's flattering but please, if I catch you stalking me, I will stab you in the eye.
E) A dedicated race car owner and track junkie went to GREAT lengths to get this hood, I'm sure it's junk and completely useless.
So you're saying
A) A vented hood only belongs on a race car
B) A little rain water is catosrophic if it lands on an intercooler
C) According to AE the vent needs to be roughy 29% of the size of the core, yeah, that requires a huge amount, say half the ******* hood to be cut out right there
D) We all know you envy me. It's flattering but please, if I catch you stalking me, I will stab you in the eye.
E) A dedicated race car owner and track junkie went to GREAT lengths to get this hood, I'm sure it's junk and completely useless.
B)Huh? Yeah yours will melt rockstar.
C) Yep, I was waiting for the trash language, and here it is.
D) Are you going to use your fairy spear to accomplish that, I'm curious?
E) again, do you read?
And addressing your first comment.
I'd really like to see a mod's reaction. Because frankly it's getting tiring reading your abusive posts. You seem to think you can get away with talking down to people on this forum that express their opinion or ask a simple technical question, use of excessive fowl language,etc. It's getting tiring to read,whether you have skills or not. Just a little piece of advice , you'll gain more respect on the forum if you tone down that "fat head" syndrone. If you dish it out then take it without crying to a forum mod.,Ok rockstar ?
#52
See the attached picture, it shows the pressure on the surface when moving, arrows pointing in means positive pressure, arrows pointing out means negative (relative) pressure. The length of the arrow indicates the magnitude and all arrows are perpendicular (at right angle) to the surface. Where the arrows are pointing out the most on the hood is where the vent should go.
#53
A) Do you read? I'm talking about that particular hood.
B)Huh? Yeah yours will melt rockstar.
C) Yep, I was waiting for the trash language, and here it is.
D) Are you going to use your fairy spear to accomplish that, I'm curious?
E) again, do you read?
And addressing your first comment.
I'd really like to see a mod's reaction. Because frankly it's getting tiring reading your abusive posts. You seem to think you can get away with talking down to people on this forum that express their opinion or ask a simple technical question, use of excessive fowl language,etc. It's getting tiring to read,whether you have skills or not. Just a little piece of advice , you'll gain more respect on the forum if you tone down that "fat head" syndrone. If you dish it out then take it without crying to a forum mod.,Ok rockstar ?
B)Huh? Yeah yours will melt rockstar.
C) Yep, I was waiting for the trash language, and here it is.
D) Are you going to use your fairy spear to accomplish that, I'm curious?
E) again, do you read?
And addressing your first comment.
I'd really like to see a mod's reaction. Because frankly it's getting tiring reading your abusive posts. You seem to think you can get away with talking down to people on this forum that express their opinion or ask a simple technical question, use of excessive fowl language,etc. It's getting tiring to read,whether you have skills or not. Just a little piece of advice , you'll gain more respect on the forum if you tone down that "fat head" syndrone. If you dish it out then take it without crying to a forum mod.,Ok rockstar ?
B) Yeah, I'm sure it will
C) Oh noes! Your virgin ears bleeding? Gimme a break, we're all adults here, well most of us, a little swearing is nothing to get panties bunched about when it pertains to retardation
D) My fairy spear? I'm guessing that's what you want me to stab you with.
E) Again, does english comp escape you or is it just the facts as it pertains to that hood? I am referring specifically to Carl Byck who was involved with that particular hood. If you're going to attempt to challenge me, get your **** strait first mkay?
https://www.rx7club.com/group-buy-center-69/3rd-gen-mazdaspeed-reverse-cowl-hood-built-2nd-gen-group-buy-199590/
What's the word I'm looking for here
Who says I'm crying to a forum mod? I've never once reported any "abusive" posts that have been directed towards me. Honestly though, I think it would be amusing to have your SN branded green. As far as you getting tired reading my foul language, stop stalking me around the ******* forum - oops. Forgive me for being a little brash to ignorant teenagers who start threads with, "I has an idea," or "check out my mad tyte downpipe fab skillzz" and then challenge me on my own welding after I offer SUGGESTIONS. Again, if you don't particularly enjoy my "abusive" posts or my ******* language, stop stalking and antagonizing me.
Last edited by TitaniumTT; 12-14-08 at 11:05 PM.
#54
That is the LAST place you want to try and vent from, since it's a positive pressure area, so the whole engine compartment will need to be pressurized in order to have it vent there. It's more likely that it'll be sucking air IN there. That's why the cabin air intake is right there, positive pressure.
See the attached picture, it shows the pressure on the surface when moving, arrows pointing in means positive pressure, arrows pointing out means negative (relative) pressure. The length of the arrow indicates the magnitude and all arrows are perpendicular (at right angle) to the surface. Where the arrows are pointing out the most on the hood is where the vent should go.
See the attached picture, it shows the pressure on the surface when moving, arrows pointing in means positive pressure, arrows pointing out means negative (relative) pressure. The length of the arrow indicates the magnitude and all arrows are perpendicular (at right angle) to the surface. Where the arrows are pointing out the most on the hood is where the vent should go.
#57
Dumbass remarks? Yeah, there's actually a thing called knowledge being shared here in some of the posts. But I guess because it goes against what you had originally thought, it's just dumbass remarks
#58
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#61
I really wanted the Feed hood, which looks like the black track FC posted above, but I think the vent is a little bit farther forward. I tried to get in on a GB with Shine, but all the guys opted for the Sexy Style...so I am rocking an N/a hood =/
#62
Thanks for the extra info on my hood Black91 and TTT. I honestly didn't even see this hood had a duct near the cowling until I opened the box, so it wasn't a selling point for me. Now that I have a better understanding of the +/- pressure areas outside an FC, I have a hypothesis. Since the 3 top vents on my hood are located rearward of the more "ideal" vent location, I'm curious if the cowl vent's air draw will facilitate pushing more air out of those top 3 holes. If this is correct, it would seem that this will pull a lot of the heat from the turbo/downpipe area up and out. Am I right, or is the cowl duct completely benefit free? I can't see it being detrimental... can it??
Sorry for the threadjack OP. Here is another hood option to stay on topic. This is the foresight bonnet availbale in Japan. This is my most wanted hood since I realized the panspeed wouldn't fit my car.
Sorry for the threadjack OP. Here is another hood option to stay on topic. This is the foresight bonnet availbale in Japan. This is my most wanted hood since I realized the panspeed wouldn't fit my car.
#63
Thanks for the extra info on my hood Black91 and TTT. I honestly didn't even see this hood had a duct near the cowling until I opened the box, so it wasn't a selling point for me. Now that I have a better understanding of the +/- pressure areas outside an FC, I have a hypothesis. Since the 3 top vents on my hood are located rearward of the more "ideal" vent location, I'm curious if the cowl vent's air draw will facilitate pushing more air out of those top 3 holes. If this is correct, it would seem that this will pull a lot of the heat from the turbo/downpipe area up and out. Am I right, or is the cowl duct completely benefit free? I can't see it being detrimental... can it??
Sorry for the threadjack OP. Here is another hood option to stay on topic. This is the foresight bonnet availbale in Japan. This is my most wanted hood since I realized the panspeed wouldn't fit my car.
Sorry for the threadjack OP. Here is another hood option to stay on topic. This is the foresight bonnet availbale in Japan. This is my most wanted hood since I realized the panspeed wouldn't fit my car.
It's available if you really want it. My main concerns with that hood are it looks like the main vent is placed a little too far back for my intercooler and strut bar. I'm afraid I'll end up with more hood clearance issues. Right now I have to "adjust" the hood supports as it contact's by about .063" in the center of the hood. Looks like I have alot of fiberglassing in my future.
#64
Funny how we are discussing the magical "Cowl Vent" overy few months or so...
What about having one made specificaly for your needs by a racing bodypanle maker. A good FC hood shouldn't weigh more then 3 KGs.
Riz.
It's available if you really want it. My main concerns with that hood are it looks like the main vent is placed a little too far back for my intercooler and strut bar. I'm afraid I'll end up with more hood clearance issues. Right now I have to "adjust" the hood supports as it contact's by about .063" in the center of the hood. Looks like I have alot of fiberglassing in my future.
Riz.
#65
What makes you think, other people want this somewhat useless hood? The vent is very small, sits too far back on the hood and to get any kind of benefit out of it you need to cut past the vertical vent,like Carl Byck's car(SP?). Maybe on a track car like yours rockstar, not good if it rains on a street car.
BEHOLD!
#66
That's a perfect hood for Mr. TitaniamTT, matches his "Fathead" syndrome. Of course we'll have to breakout the motec with EMap to get some data just to confirm.
#67
Originally Posted by anderdick88
really wanted the hood that RX-Heaven had on his widebody but he said that they dont make it any more
http://www.rhdjapan.com/jdm-low/Pan-...C3S-RX-7-50295
Pics of hood in my sig and in the build thread link.
Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
Some of us, well me, are running VMIC's and while a vented hood is optional, I think it will help. Unlike most people here though I'll actually be swapping hoods, vented vs non, and pulling a few logs to see if it actually does help coolant temps or AIT's. Until then though, it's all ******* guess work.
Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
Sinfully ugly, not to mention those ******* retards actually think that the vent in the back right by the windshield will create some sort of magic vortex to let the heat OUT.
Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
Look at the length on the hood on the inside next to the lights. It looks to me like RE's hood NEEDS thier front bumper with the extended lights to work. The orange car looks like it's a stock replacement hood. Dunno though, most of you kids consider me old, maybe my eyes are going.
Originally Posted by need-a-t2
is that a ***** joke....because that would be hilarious!
Originally Posted by SmogSUX
I really wanted the Feed hood, which looks like the black track FC posted above, but I think the vent is a little bit farther forward. I tried to get in on a GB with Shine, but all the guys opted for the Sexy Style...so I am rocking an N/a hood =/
Originally Posted by nitronatefc
Sorry for the threadjack OP. Here is another hood option to stay on topic. This is the foresight bonnet availbale in Japan. This is my most wanted hood since I realized the panspeed wouldn't fit my car.
Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
They opted for the sexy style as opposed to a close replica to Supernow's hood.
Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
That's a nice find. I like, ALOT. It looks a little on the weak side though, you can see the tweak in it in the picture with the hood up.
#68
[QUOTE=Juiceh]
Why wouldn't the panspeed hood fit your car? If you can fit a stock hood you can fit the panspeed hood... Or are you talking about the overall look of the car?/QUOTE]
I assumed it wouldn't fit (probably like a dumbass). Looking at pics of that hood on your car and others led me to believe that the vent dipped down lower than stock hood clearance toward the windshield side of the vent. Maybe this is an optical illusion. I was concerned about clearance with my intercooler core sticking up so high between the motor and radiator (see pic in my 1st post). If your hood is not lower at any point than a stocker, then I was wrong and could have fit it Thats ok though, because otherwise my car will end up looking too much like a toned down version of yours by the time its done
Why wouldn't the panspeed hood fit your car? If you can fit a stock hood you can fit the panspeed hood... Or are you talking about the overall look of the car?/QUOTE]
I assumed it wouldn't fit (probably like a dumbass). Looking at pics of that hood on your car and others led me to believe that the vent dipped down lower than stock hood clearance toward the windshield side of the vent. Maybe this is an optical illusion. I was concerned about clearance with my intercooler core sticking up so high between the motor and radiator (see pic in my 1st post). If your hood is not lower at any point than a stocker, then I was wrong and could have fit it Thats ok though, because otherwise my car will end up looking too much like a toned down version of yours by the time its done
#69
More people with a sense of humor! There's hope yet
That was the Pan Speed hood we were trying to have shine make. For some reason we couldn't get enough interest. Shine even had one of those hoods in their posession. But they didn't pull the trigger because the stupids wanted that Mini Dmax uglyness.
Yep, it was quite depressing.
Yep, it was quite depressing.
Yeah but that seems to be a little excessive. It's also hard to tell if there are any supports on the inside of the hood or not.
#70
I assumed it wouldn't fit (probably like a dumbass). Looking at pics of that hood on your car and others led me to believe that the vent dipped down lower than stock hood clearance toward the windshield side of the vent. Maybe this is an optical illusion. I was concerned about clearance with my intercooler core sticking up so high between the motor and radiator (see pic in my 1st post). If your hood is not lower at any point than a stocker, then I was wrong and could have fit it Thats ok though, because otherwise my car will end up looking too much like a toned down version of yours by the time its done
Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
That's sad. Do they still have the hood and how many people would they need a commitment from in order to pull a mold?
Last edited by Juiceh; 12-15-08 at 04:12 PM.
#71
Also one of my biggest issues in the past was heat from a stationary situation. Sitting in traffic etc I use use to nearly cook my engine. Hopefully it will release that heat and actually get some airflow happening.
But its all speculation till I get it back on the road, nothing beats actual data
#72
aahh I see what you mean, i didn't realize the post I quoted was the same person who posted that setup. It does dip down some. How much clearance do you have with your intercooler and the stock hood right now? I'll take some measurements of the hood to help give you a better idea if it will fit or not.
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That aerodynamic profile picture of the FC always had me thinking. It is of course of an N/A hood, stock bumper. If you took an aftermarket bumper, allowing more air to come in the front, and assuming you keep some form of undertray, at what point would the incoming air overcome the pressure created by that "positive pressure area" near the rear, and force air out a vent if placed there?
That diagram really has no index, so there's no way to know how much pressure is created, for all we know it could be a couple KPA, less then 1 psi.
That diagram really has no index, so there's no way to know how much pressure is created, for all we know it could be a couple KPA, less then 1 psi.
#75
You'd have to duct it all the way back and seal the tranny tunnel too. I was told that it I started having underhood temp problems to remove the seal on top of the firewall. Air will be forced in there and exit the tranny tunnel along with more engine bay heat.