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Old 06-23-02, 10:38 PM
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Logicon repair

I have removed my logicon. I am looking for advice from anyone who has repaired theirs. I started resoldering the cold solder joints tonight. What a pain.
Do you have to resolder all of them, or just the ones that look bad?
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Concentrate on the ones on the faceplate.


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I remember the feeling well of pre-logicon fixing. Seriously, this is a SNAP. You will have no problems... I repaired mine to fix my left turn signal problem, and there was obvious corrosion. I went ahead and soldered the rest of the joints that the pins went to anyway. Logicon works beautifully, I can legally make left hand turns again, what more could I want?

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I remember my logicon had a fried resister in it. This may have been because the mix motor was sorta siezed, but I oiled it up and everything has been fine since.
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Thanks for the responses. Ted, the ones on the faceplate look the worst. So I think your advice is spot on.
I do have two questions though:
1. Do I have to heat up the existing solder connections and try and clean off the old solder, or can I just resolder the connection?
2. Where is the air mix motor located. I did not see it (although I wasn't really looking) when I pulled the logicon. And, can I hook it up to a 12V source to see if it is working?
Thanks a million guys.
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You can see parts of it under the drivers side dash twards the middle of the dash. theres a few levers and linkages that you will be able to see.
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Originally posted by hanman
1. Do I have to heat up the existing solder connections and try and clean off the old solder, or can I just resolder the connection?
I would recommend to get rid of the old solder as much as you can.&nbsp The original stuff is acid-core and is nasty stuff.&nbsp These might crack again in the near future, as the acid weakens any other solder you put over it.&nbsp This is one of the reasons why they crack in the first place!


2. Where is the air mix motor located. I did not see it (although I wasn't really looking) when I pulled the logicon. And, can I hook it up to a 12V source to see if it is working?
As SaabGuy mentioned, if you look from the driver's side footwell into the center console area, you'll see a cylinderical component that has a bunch of linkages going to it.&nbsp That's the air mix motor.


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Ted,
Ok, so far I have tried to remove the old solder by heating it up with my soldering gun on the lower heat level, and then using a q-tip or whatever I can to clean the connection. Good? or is there an easier way?
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Q-tips?&nbsp Now that makes for an interesting picture.

There are things called solder wicks - it's just a copper braid that works decently well.&nbsp If you're getting good results with the Q-tips, hell, keep using them!

I also have a Hakko vacuum de-soldering pump that's like $500.


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No they don't work real well.
Could I pick up the braid at Radio Shack or a hardware store?
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Radio Shack sells a "De-soldering Iron" for $10, and it works great. It's just a soldering iron with a hollow tip which is attached to a squeeze bulb. You squeeze the bulb with your thumb, put the tip on the old solder, and when it melts, release your thumb from the bulb. Works every time.
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solder suckers are only $10-$15, and work on the same idea
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Oh crap, I forgot about those sucker bulbs!


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well, If you are doing chips, the vacuum like Ted mentions, is the only way.

But for basic connections on non-wave soldered boards the sucker or a bulb works better IMO than a braid.
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Thanks, I bought both the braid and the bulb. So far I agree the bulb works better.
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