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Nismo Convert86 01-28-07 04:25 PM

I also went with Egauges, great service, great prices.

Wankel7 01-28-07 08:23 PM

After having an engine that had oil pressure problems...the stock gauge will never do.

James

NZ_87_TURBO 01-29-07 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Longshoe
boost pressure, AFR, and fuel pressure


+1

all the info you need. Why double up. just replace your stock sensors and wiring if your worried.

FrankV702 01-29-07 03:43 PM

I just finished ordering the pineapple racing Dual EGT gauge about 5 minutes ago. I think those will defintly help save your engine. Like stated above a A/F wideband is good but it only tells you the average A/F from both chambers. With the dual EGT gauge you can tell if just one rotor is leaning out or whats going on.

My5ABaby 01-29-07 03:56 PM

For my N/A I was thinking...

Oil Pressure
Water Temp
Oil Temp

and maybe...

Fuel Pressure

A wideband and EGT would be kind of cool to have, but not really useful. Nothing I would spend money on. Of course, I can always switch them to a TII when I get one. But... I need money for that first. :(

spot_skater 01-29-07 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by FrankV702
I just finished ordering the pineapple racing Dual EGT gauge about 5 minutes ago. I think those will defintly help save your engine. Like stated above a A/F wideband is good but it only tells you the average A/F from both chambers. With the dual EGT gauge you can tell if just one rotor is leaning out or whats going on.

How do the sensors plug up to read the separate chambers? Are there dual wideband o2 sensors or what?

I don't really get it...

James

88rxn/a 01-29-07 04:03 PM

i think its 2 probes...that go BEFORE the turbo.

spot_skater 01-29-07 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by 88rxn/a
i think its 2 probes...that go BEFORE the turbo.

Ah... So they would each go in the runners of the exhaust mani and before the turbo then?

Must only work with an aftermarket or custom exhaust manifold, right?

James

FrankV702 01-29-07 04:08 PM

I havnt gotten it yet.. Just put the order in for it a few minutes ago.. should be here by this weekend. But its not wideband O2sensors..This kit comes with two probes (kind of like water temp probes) that tell you how hot the exhaust gasses are. You have to tap (1) 1/8" NPT in each of the exhaust manifold runners, Then you screw the probes into each one. As seen in the pics below of my manifold. The lil brown spray paint circles is where ill tap the fittings to screw in the two probes. :)

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...2/manifold.jpg

88rxn/a 01-29-07 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by spot_skater
Ah... So they would each go in the runners of the exhaust mani and before the turbo then?

Must only work with an aftermarket or custom exhaust manifold, right?

James

http://01622c6.netsolstores.com/inde...PROD&ProdID=24

they had a group buy a little while ago and i missed it!
https://www.rx7club.com/pineapple-racing-171/pineapple-racing-hi-temp-dual-egt-gauge-kit-560258/

FrankV702 01-29-07 04:18 PM

yea me too.. chance to get it almost 50 cheaper and I was lagging,. :/ oh well. 250 is well worth it I think.

classicauto 01-29-07 04:31 PM

My top 2 picks:

Oil pressure (if the stock one works, I'd keep it. I basically use it as a warning light. If its dad in the water I know somethings up.....but if it doesn't work - you NEED this gauge or a warning light.)
Water temp. For me in the S4 TII I'm using the stocker because it works, and unlike the S5 has a much more healthy pallate to view from. In the S5, once its past half - you've probably already done some damge. At least, thats been my experience. But again - if you don't have this - you NEED it.

Really, this is all you need if you're going to be a true minimalist. But a boost gauge will help since you will be running a T4, I'd want to keep an eye on boost levels.

But my spread in my car is as follows:

Stock oil press.
Stock water temp.
AEM wideband----->a-pillar
Boost----->a-pillar
PR Dual EGT----->in the door vent

No clutter in the center section at all. The only thing I would liek to get eventually would be an oil temp. gauge.............but I'm out of "un-used" real-estate in the cabin at the moment.

classicauto 01-29-07 04:34 PM

Somebody's ballin'~!~!!!!

lol, may want to remove the stacks of cash from future photos ;) :rofl:...........or not :dunno:

FrankV702 01-29-07 04:43 PM

thats tip money :) haha.. my desk is sooooo cluttered. I got 3 turbos on it.. 2 manifolds.. a hole bunch of rad clamps and Tbolt clamps.. money.. photo printer and digital camera. lol. and papers out the ass..

88rxn/a 01-29-07 04:43 PM

hahahaha, i was thinkin the same thing!!!
if i had that manifold i certainley would have that much cash left!!!

88rxn/a 01-29-07 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by FrankV702
thats tip money :) haha.. my desk is sooooo cluttered. I got 3 turbos on it.. 2 manifolds.. a hole bunch of rad clamps and Tbolt clamps.. money.. photo printer and digital camera. lol. and papers out the ass..


tips!?!?!?
what the hell are you!?!?!
a pole dancer!!! :molepoke:

spot_skater 01-29-07 06:50 PM

Can be used with the stock exhaust mani then for a stock turbo, or for when a turbo upgrade is in order? Sounds pretty sweet!

Good stuff... and I don't see why it couldn't be used with the Haltech... As long as you have enough inputs for it.

I am interested, as well.

James

osiris7442 01-29-07 10:06 PM

i vote for no extra guages....get a haltech, and a laptop...monitor everything on the laptop and take it with u when u get out of the car...nto guages to attract those theives

$100T2 01-29-07 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by osiris7442
i vote for no extra guages....get a haltech, and a laptop...monitor everything on the laptop and take it with u when u get out of the car...nto guages to attract those theives

I have a Microtech, not a Haltech, so that's out.

FrankV702 01-30-07 05:55 AM

Im working on fabbing my own.. If anyone has a extra FC gauge cluster they want to sell for cheap it should be done quicker then im expecting :). microtech you should be able to monitor that stuff as well..

$100T2 01-30-07 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by FrankV702
Im working on fabbing my own.. If anyone has a extra FC gauge cluster they want to sell for cheap it should be done quicker then im expecting :). microtech you should be able to monitor that stuff as well..

I have an extra cluster somewhere, I think.

SpooledupRacing 01-30-07 07:17 AM

if u are modding and going to build or tune this car u will want the following IMO

boost gauge (30:30), WIDEBAND, EGT

stylEmon 01-30-07 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by spot_skater
Can be used with the stock exhaust mani then for a stock turbo, or for when a turbo upgrade is in order?

can be used on anything you can tap...

$100T2 01-30-07 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by stylEmon
can be used on anything you can tap...

So it works on asses? :D

fcdrifter13 01-31-07 07:29 AM

I have 2 bezel gauges. Water and oil temp, I think temp is more important than pressure because if the pressure drops the temp is going to go up.


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