Dom_C

Yup, like the title says. I bought a ssac stock replacment turbo manifold. I figured why not, I got it for 110 shipped off ebay, alot of people have talked about them but havn't seen anyone post that actually had/has one, so I'll be the guinne(sp) pig this time. I was actually surprised at how nice it looked. The welds don't look bad, the flanges are nice and thick. The only thing is that the flanges look like they are made out of some sort of cast stainless weird ****. Over all it looks nice. I havn't fire dher up yet with it on, i've got to get a new alt. belt then she'll be ready. The only major complaint I have so far is that it's hard to get a wrench on one of the nuts on the engine side, and hard to put a bolt through on one on the turbo side. If anyone has one of these mani's lets hear some feed back on it. This thread is ment to be informative, no stupid *** opinions just because it's made by ssac and someone you know with a honda had one and it broke. Keep that **** outa this thread. Thanks
Dom

vipers

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i noticed it was designed for the s4 turbo....... i was thinking about purchasing this, but i have an s4 motor w/ a s5 (soon to be bnr4) turbo? are the turbo flanges different between s4 and s5? why wont it work for s5?

prjct87rx7

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yes the flanges are different between the s4 and s5

fastrotaries

The S5 flange is better by design. Unless you like the twin scroll POS that's on the S4. I got rid of mine, when I added the DP.

RotaryEvolution

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why is the twin scroll a pos?

iceblue

That is b/c the metals in China are of very pore fairests

slpin

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actaully
i have used it and made a review with pictures about it...

it is much easier to put the turbo on first and put both of them in at the same time

Dom_C

Yea it would be real tough to put the turbo on with the manifold already bolted up. What did you find after using it? Any crazy cracks or anything? My 7 isn't my DD so it won't get a ton of action, at least till summer comes. Hopefully it'll hold up

totallimmortal

what i'm wondering even more than wether or not its a pos is does it actually help performance?

iceblue

A straw would flow bettor then the stock manifold.

sleeperfc

+1

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it will be just fine. if you need a s4 mani its a good option. If you want to but something to help with power... i dunno if you will see any gains. You might because of the improved flow but there is no doccumented gains that i have seen.

Someone shoul dyno before and dyno after, if they really have nothing better to do.

staticguitar313

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pics dammit

sleeperfc

splin has some pics some where. he has been running this mani for a while now.

RotaryEvolution

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put one on smogsux car, haven't had any issues yet aside from those mentioned above.

the flanges look like that because they are cast and then plated.

now i'm just waiting on the haters.

Silverfc88

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Have anybody with this manifold seen any gains with it? Doesn't look like to bad of a manifold, any leaks?

RotaryEvolution

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most people don't just toss on a manifold so it will be a while to find out who has felt gains from the manifold. all i know is nick's car didn't do too bad with it, 300rwhp at 11psi.

Silverfc88

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Did he run the same setup before the mani?

RotaryEvolution

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no, which is why i made the comment most people do many changes rather than just a manifold plus no one is going to spend $90 on the dyno just to measure the gains.

Silverfc88

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I think with the manifold, you might see better spool up so it might raise the power band or I mean making power sooner.

But looking at your friends dyno and mine they are very similar so I don't know if there is even a gain, but of course every dyno might be different.

sleeperfc

ouch... its 40 here for 3 pulls.

or $100 for 1 hour.

iceblue

^ WHAT? Its 100$ a pull here $120hr $90hr if they tune + dyno time.

Personaly I would not let them tune my radio.

And there is no enercha dynos only static pull. So good luck tuning properly on that.

Dom_C

Yea I add'd an rtek and stuff at the sametime. . hahah. It'll be a while before I have any results. I just got it all back together but now I just got a better condition stock turbo that i'm gonna put on. Oh well, it's winter anyhow. As much as I'd love to drive her the salt and **** on the roads sucks! Glad to see all the posative feedback and no gay *** haters saying stupid ****. hahah Thanks guys. keep it comming

Silverfc88

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Damn! It was $55 for 3 pulls in Philly for me.

Maybe one day I might try out that manifold if I get it for cheap, but first I'll give it some time to let other people work out the problems and bugs with it.

If anybody has one please update when they get the chance later down the road.

sleeperfc

yea $40 for 3 pulls with a/f on dyno night. $60 for 3 if not on dyno night. If you rent the dyno for tuning its $100/hr.

there are a few places to choose from too. there is a in ground dynojet at underground racing. (dynoed there before)

A mustang dyno at P1 motorsports

A dynodynamics dyno at CP racing (dynoed there before)

And a portable dynojet on a trailer for events and things, Its the dyno rotorsports uses when they tune cars. Dyno dan is the guy that owns/rents it out. (dynoed there before)


but your right about no one just changing out a manifold... never know though someone might. the stock s4 manifolds are getting old and seem to all have cracks. In the next few years that might become more common as the lack of s4 manifolds gets worse.

Silverfc88

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Maybe not, as long as there is an abundance of Jspecs floating around then the S4 guys should still have manifolds and with all the people getting rid of theres for the S5 set then there should be plenty.

I don't see the problem with the S4 mani and turbo. The mani is almost indestructable and you port the turbo and it flows just as well. I'm running a BNR stage 1 with the S4 manifold and I think it flows great with no creep. Well except for the winter and I have to turn the boost controller way down to keep it where I want it. Warmer temps its not a porblem

I'm wondering how long the SSAC stock manifolds will last?