Digi7ech

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I'm not a fan of the huge Greddy FMIC which are barely within the bumper.
I've seen lots of them with dents and I've heard cooling takes a big hit in efficiency.

I've been discussing placing the IC within close proximity of the radiator itself.
I've heard that the flow is better since they are closer together resulting in less turbulence.
Making the radiator not suffer as much while also helping protect the IC from rocks.
I know that heat soak could become a situation at lower speeds but anythign is better than a stock TMIC.
Has anybody here placed their IC near the stock radiator?

I know the old Trust IC places right under the stock hood latch.


I've been thinking of just backspacing the radiator a bit and placing the IC a few inches ahead of it with the piping coming through the now gap between the Rad and the support.

Actual projects/pics/or just theories are welcome.

SonicRaT

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I've used a starion mounted like that before with OK results, but then again that thing is TINY. I've seen quite a few people using those volvo or whatever intercoolers that are HUGE that they mount right behind it. Scotts 89T2 kinda did something like that too IIRC, here's a pic of his I believe:

ilike2eatricers

I DD my t2 and dont really have any bent fins from rock chips or anything and dont have any cooling problems even with 4th gear pulls on a 90-100* day during tuning. If you cooling system is set up right you shouldnt have any problems with overheating. I dont even see temps above 90*C cruising on the freeway on a hot day or even a 4th gear pull on the freeway.

SonicRaT

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What radiator do you have?

ilike2eatricers

koyo, stock clutch fan, foam wedged in cracks, greddy fmic. Temp is measure by a blitz aftermarket electric temp gauge in the stock location on the rear iron and also by Power FC on stock waterthermosensor on the back of the waterpump.

Parastie

I was excepting to see pictures of intercoolers sticking out of the hood or fender...that'd be awesome.

Digi7ech

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I'm in AZ. Cooling is a HUGE concern out here. I daily drive my tii and have seen some nasty temps out here. 210`F post thermostat(4inches after).

I have a koyo,stock fan,dual alt pulley,stock undertray,and low coolant to water ratio.
Ducting could be better though.


Thanks SonicRat.
So did you notice any heatsoak/cooling problems there? Still have th AC condenser at that time?
I havent' decided on a IC size yet but it won't be huge since I have close to stock goals(for now). Maybe 250rwhp in the end since this is my DD.



My other plan is to get a NPR IC and do a Hmount and get a NA hood and vent it but I like my FC3S CF TII hood and don't really want to go through the trouble of custom fabbing a hood and painting it.

SonicRaT

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I had no issues on a 95* day with a stock radiator and the starion IC mounted right infront of it, though I did ditch the stock pan and made my own out of aluminum that better directed air through both the IC and radiator. I'm not sure if Scott ever comes on anymore, but I'm sure he'd have some info with his setup.

Crusader_9x

I have a npr large right infront of my raditor. It sits where the ac condenser(correct term?) use to sit. Ill try to get some pics up in a little bit.

ilike2eatricers

You may also want to look into the HKS kit and how it's setup.

KompressorLOgic

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i was thinking of this setup also i removed my ac condencer allready

bcool

I used the volvo intercooler right before my engine toasted. Temps were normal and it did a good job. I've heard that it does not offer much more flow over stock, but at least it let me keep my n/a hood and was less apt to be heat soaked. A bit of modification had to be made to make it fit which is not something i liked doing.

Crusader_9x

Heres a link to my album online. Let me know if they dont work or whatever.
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Digi7ech

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Cool.
So do you have ducting panels where the stock top was and stuff?
Did you notice a running temp change?

It also looks like you had to hack some of the side rad maount off for the piping or is that just a pic angle?

Crusader_9x

I dont have ducting yet but that is in the works. No change in temp really at all. I think alot of the problems with fmic is the fact of how far away they are and the air has all that open room between the two. How mine is setup the air just goes right through them all at once. Besides in every factory diesel and most gas turbed setups that I've looked at are setup in a similar manor.

Yeah I had to cut away the stock radiator core support to fit the endtanks of the intercooler where the piping connects to it.