Interchangeability Thread
09-18-05 | 02:03 AM
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Interchangeability Thread
I dont mean like what parts from a vert will fit a coupe. Or which part from 88 will fit a 92. I mean what parts are interchangeable from other lines of cars that mazda. I see a short throw shifter is, but what else is?
09-18-05 | 08:07 AM
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I see were this guy is coming from. I know that all the eletrical harnessess used in the rx7's are the same in every other mazda. They drom the universal wiring in, and plug up what needs to be plugged up.
09-18-05 | 04:22 PM
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YEah thats the stuff I mean. It could be broad or general but knowledge is power. I remember when I used to work on Mustangs, I would go to junkyards and a motor out the 5.0 would run me 1000 but the motor out of a Mark8 would be 500 and it was the same motor with even better hads.........
So what parts from a b2000 swith over, and if that is the case some Ranger parts might fit as well
So what parts from a b2000 swith over, and if that is the case some Ranger parts might fit as well
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09-18-05 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by westler91
YEah thats the stuff I mean. It could be broad or general but knowledge is power. I remember when I used to work on Mustangs, I would go to junkyards and a motor out the 5.0 would run me 1000 but the motor out of a Mark8 would be 500 and it was the same motor with even better hads.........
So what parts from a b2000 swith over, and if that is the case some Ranger parts might fit as well
So what parts from a b2000 swith over, and if that is the case some Ranger parts might fit as well
exactly when did ford and mazda merge
09-19-05 | 04:27 AM
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As I recall, Ford owns 1/3 of Mazda. Not quite enough to run the show, but enough to "share" in designs.
The new Ford 500 is on a Mazda 6 chassis with a Mazda 3 engine (the 2.3L 4cyl). The Mazda 3 is based on the Focus but they took their pick of the good parts and came up with the others on their own. My bro's 93 MX-6 is parts compatible with a 626 and Probe of the same year. It's been going on for a while, I don't know all the details, but if you notice, there's no rotary Ford... our cars are all Mazda.
-Twofer
The new Ford 500 is on a Mazda 6 chassis with a Mazda 3 engine (the 2.3L 4cyl). The Mazda 3 is based on the Focus but they took their pick of the good parts and came up with the others on their own. My bro's 93 MX-6 is parts compatible with a 626 and Probe of the same year. It's been going on for a while, I don't know all the details, but if you notice, there's no rotary Ford... our cars are all Mazda.
-Twofer
09-19-05 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Tofuball
I know a lot of stuff from the B2000 series trucks swap over, I'll wait for Pele to post on that for a better list tho :p
Apparently some of them come with TII transmissions.
Apparently some of them come with TII transmissions.
It's common knowledge that Mazda used three types of trannies...
Originally Posted by MazdaTruckin Transmission interchange and modification article
Solomiata references 3 types of Mazda 5 speeds.
* Type I is the really early style transmission used in the RX-2, RX- 3, and RX-4. These where known to be pretty stout transmissions that the later Type IIIs where modeled after.
* The Type II also known as the Model M trannies is what is used in the B2200/B2000. The model tranny in my 91 B2200 is a M519. These trannies where only used in naturally aspired (non-supercharged) cars. These cars include RWD 626, 79-85 RX-7, 86-91 NA RX-7, B2000/2200 truck, and Miata. The main difference in these transmissions are the gearing, bell housing and tailshaft, making these the key interchange parts. The bell housing is basically an adapter to whatever block you are using. It is stated that input and output shaft lengths may very .5" between some model trannies so be cautious which tranny you select.
* Type III or Model R trannies are used in the turbo vehicles. These transmissions are based off the Type I transmissions and have a better synchronizer design and beefier output shafts. Output shaft diameter was increased from 15/16" up to 1" I have not seen parts from these to know if the synchronizers are interchangable with Type II trannies. These trannies where used in the turbo RX-7's, 929, B2600, and MPV.
* Type I is the really early style transmission used in the RX-2, RX- 3, and RX-4. These where known to be pretty stout transmissions that the later Type IIIs where modeled after.
* The Type II also known as the Model M trannies is what is used in the B2200/B2000. The model tranny in my 91 B2200 is a M519. These trannies where only used in naturally aspired (non-supercharged) cars. These cars include RWD 626, 79-85 RX-7, 86-91 NA RX-7, B2000/2200 truck, and Miata. The main difference in these transmissions are the gearing, bell housing and tailshaft, making these the key interchange parts. The bell housing is basically an adapter to whatever block you are using. It is stated that input and output shaft lengths may very .5" between some model trannies so be cautious which tranny you select.
* Type III or Model R trannies are used in the turbo vehicles. These transmissions are based off the Type I transmissions and have a better synchronizer design and beefier output shafts. Output shaft diameter was increased from 15/16" up to 1" I have not seen parts from these to know if the synchronizers are interchangable with Type II trannies. These trannies where used in the turbo RX-7's, 929, B2600, and MPV.
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Originally Posted by Solomiata Drivetrain interchange guide
Mazda has two 5 speed transmissions. One is used in NA applications (AKA 'type 2' or Model M) and came on such cars as the RWD 626, 79-85 RX-7, 86-91 NA RX-7, B2000/2200 truck, and Miata. The other is a stronger unit that came on all turbo RX-7's, 929, B2600, and MPV.
Within the type2 versions only the bellhousing & tailshaft cases and gear ratio's are really different between models. All the guts of the Type 2's are nearly the same and mostly interchangeable. The major differences came in '81 when the shifter was made remote, in '83 where some bearings and shafts were made larger and in '94 with improved seals and a double cone 2nd gear synchro. Between models the input/output shaft lengths may differ slightly (~ 1/2") so always measure. The 79 through mid-83 tranny guts should be avoided if reliability and torque rating is important.
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The turbo trans (AKA 'type3' or model 'R' ) was derived from the original, and more robust, RX-2 through RX-4 5 speed type1 trans. It also has many internal design similarities to the Type 2. It mainly differs from the Type 2 in the input and output shafts grew from 15/16" to 1", a removable bellhousing and the case having strengthening ribs instead of being smooth. For more turbo trans info go to the links page and click on Mazdatrix and Felix's. A variant of the turbo trans has been used in Ford light duty '88-91 F-150, Bronco and Ranger trucks. It is model M50D-R2 and also known as the "Kogyo"
Within the type2 versions only the bellhousing & tailshaft cases and gear ratio's are really different between models. All the guts of the Type 2's are nearly the same and mostly interchangeable. The major differences came in '81 when the shifter was made remote, in '83 where some bearings and shafts were made larger and in '94 with improved seals and a double cone 2nd gear synchro. Between models the input/output shaft lengths may differ slightly (~ 1/2") so always measure. The 79 through mid-83 tranny guts should be avoided if reliability and torque rating is important.
...
The turbo trans (AKA 'type3' or model 'R' ) was derived from the original, and more robust, RX-2 through RX-4 5 speed type1 trans. It also has many internal design similarities to the Type 2. It mainly differs from the Type 2 in the input and output shafts grew from 15/16" to 1", a removable bellhousing and the case having strengthening ribs instead of being smooth. For more turbo trans info go to the links page and click on Mazdatrix and Felix's. A variant of the turbo trans has been used in Ford light duty '88-91 F-150, Bronco and Ranger trucks. It is model M50D-R2 and also known as the "Kogyo"
But it's common for manufacturers to share parts bins, not only among models, but different brands as well. Why reinvent the wheel? (Pardon the pun.)
The Honda S2000* and Kia Sportage both use Mazda differentials... (Good source for ring an pinions for the 1st gen RX-7... The Sportage has 4.78 gears
) The LSD that will work in the S2000* will also work in the N/A RX-7 (Sorry FC guys, but you have a weird long pinion setup that doesn't allow the common ring and pinion to swap over.)* = Not ENTIRELY sure on the S2000, but I am more sure on the Kia Sportage.
Your best bet is to run to the scrapper with your old part and compare. Don't just think, "What did this come from, what was it originally designed for?" Instead think, "What can I DO with it?" Maybe grind a little of this, bend some of that, add washers, or drill a hole in it...
09-19-05 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by turbine
exactly when did ford and mazda merge
In 1994, the B-Series truck and Ranger became one and the same. Prior years are in fact different..
The engines in all Ford's compacts (Escort, etc.) are Mazda designs. (Probably ideas that were intended to be scrapped but instead, passed down to Ford... At least IMHO.)
I think actual merger was down on paper and cash in 1996.
09-19-05 | 11:58 AM
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(Probably ideas that were intended to be scrapped but instead, passed down to Ford... At least IMHO.)
09-20-05 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Fumihiko
but then my question is could you put a ranger big brake kit on a 5 lug?
Thats a very good question!!!!! Best way to find out is to measure the appropiate things and compare
