The infamous RHD thread
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The infamous RHD thread
hey guys a while back ICEBLUE started his rhd setup i dont know if he finished it yet or what but after looking at his blog ...i am going to a new project and thats making my baby RHD...
i know i know why rhd...well for the last 3 years i have been living in japan and still am and i have gotten use to it but when i go home it feels diffrent
now i know a lot of you dont think its a good idea but....1)its diffrent 2)i got easy access to all needed parts 3) funds are there 4) how many of you know or seen rhd fc3s's driving around 5) way cheaper than trying to import a car from japan..trust me i gave up after the 4th month
if you guys can help with pictures ..write ups...parts needed...
also since iam doing my whole interior in fiberglass it will be easier because i would have the dash out...1 step done
i know i know why rhd...well for the last 3 years i have been living in japan and still am and i have gotten use to it but when i go home it feels diffrent
now i know a lot of you dont think its a good idea but....1)its diffrent 2)i got easy access to all needed parts 3) funds are there 4) how many of you know or seen rhd fc3s's driving around 5) way cheaper than trying to import a car from japan..trust me i gave up after the 4th month
if you guys can help with pictures ..write ups...parts needed...
also since iam doing my whole interior in fiberglass it will be easier because i would have the dash out...1 step done
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Originally Posted by bcool
good luck, but i still dont see much past the whole "JDM factor" it will be a pain in the *** to drive around normaly.
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this swap is a PAIN in the ***. do you realize how many wiring extensions you'll have to make for all the dash electronics? (i'll give you a hint: 3467284732834 million), not to mention welding a new steering column mount on the other side of the car, moving the pedals, moving everything to that side of the bay, cutting new holes, covering the holes. plus, think about the fact that now your intake, exhaust, steering, brakes, and clutch are ALL located within 1 foot of each other on one side of the engine bay. I dont see how it could be done with the engine still in the car, so you'd have to pull that along with your dash also. its probably the most labor intensive thing possible on an FC and for what? so it's 'unique'. If you wanna do it thats on you, but you should probably really REALLY think about the insane amount of effort put in vs. the reward.
just my .02, do what makes you happy.
just my .02, do what makes you happy.
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I'm starting to think there should simply be a forum rule that guys talking about RHD swaps or turbo'd N/As should have to have a running vehicle with the work done before they post.
I've seen 20-30 people talk about this, and none accomplish it thus far. Good luck, maybe you'll be the first. Regardless, it's a lot of work for no purpose other then bling. Whatever floats your boat.
I've seen 20-30 people talk about this, and none accomplish it thus far. Good luck, maybe you'll be the first. Regardless, it's a lot of work for no purpose other then bling. Whatever floats your boat.
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...well I think there should be a rule banning V8-rx7 owners from bitching about anyone trying ANYTHING "different" on this forum...
...good thing I don't make the rules...
...good thing I don't make the rules...
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Originally Posted by Liquid Anarchy
...well I think there should be a rule banning V8-rx7 owners from bitching about anyone trying ANYTHING "different" on this forum...
...good thing I don't make the rules...
...good thing I don't make the rules...
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the worst problem with RHD is toll booths lol.....as for the origional post
you may want to go to ww.rx7world.com
send the guy who runs the site (Ernst)..no not ernest.....he built me my car with RHD and I love it, im sure he coudl give you a simple list of what all needs to be swapped..plus there is pictures of the buildup of my car
as for the other comments, i dont find it hard to drive in teh states at all..i love the looks i get (when she is actually running lol) and i dont even notice that im on the wrong side of the car
its also great for tlakgin to hot chicks at stoplights...since u dont have to reacxh across the car to roll the window down lol
you may want to go to ww.rx7world.com
send the guy who runs the site (Ernst)..no not ernest.....he built me my car with RHD and I love it, im sure he coudl give you a simple list of what all needs to be swapped..plus there is pictures of the buildup of my car
as for the other comments, i dont find it hard to drive in teh states at all..i love the looks i get (when she is actually running lol) and i dont even notice that im on the wrong side of the car
its also great for tlakgin to hot chicks at stoplights...since u dont have to reacxh across the car to roll the window down lol
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Originally Posted by osiris7442
the worst problem with RHD is toll booths lol.....as for the origional post
you may want to go to ww.rx7world.com
send the guy who runs the site (Ernst)..no not ernest.....he built me my car with RHD and I love it, im sure he coudl give you a simple list of what all needs to be swapped..plus there is pictures of the buildup of my car
as for the other comments, i dont find it hard to drive in teh states at all..i love the looks i get (when she is actually running lol) and i dont even notice that im on the wrong side of the car
its also great for tlakgin to hot chicks at stoplights...since u dont have to reacxh across the car to roll the window down lol
you may want to go to ww.rx7world.com
send the guy who runs the site (Ernst)..no not ernest.....he built me my car with RHD and I love it, im sure he coudl give you a simple list of what all needs to be swapped..plus there is pictures of the buildup of my car
as for the other comments, i dont find it hard to drive in teh states at all..i love the looks i get (when she is actually running lol) and i dont even notice that im on the wrong side of the car
its also great for tlakgin to hot chicks at stoplights...since u dont have to reacxh across the car to roll the window down lol
1....search buton does not show anything about the swap and
2....its what i want and like i didnt ask if you like it or your opinion...i simply asked those who have done the swap or tried the work and did not finish
thank you for all who have input on my thread and for those who have something negative to say keep your two cents to your self.....oh and hate the "i want to make my n/a turbo " threads but i dont go bitchin about it i will simply tell them bro check aaron cakes spost all you need is in there instead of my " .02"cents
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My roommate has a Skyline, and from driving it I think RHD isn't too bad the only things I have noticed that really suck are:
1. Drive-thru fast food is on the wrong side
2. Making a left turn from a turn lane on a 3-lane road on an open green is just about suicide if there is another car across from you.
3. 1000000 questions about your car.
4. People asking you if you deliver the mail with it.
1. Drive-thru fast food is on the wrong side
2. Making a left turn from a turn lane on a 3-lane road on an open green is just about suicide if there is another car across from you.
3. 1000000 questions about your car.
4. People asking you if you deliver the mail with it.
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Originally Posted by evileagle
My roommate has a Skyline, and from driving it I think RHD isn't too bad the only things I have noticed that really suck are:
1. Drive-thru fast food is on the wrong side
2. Making a left turn from a turn lane on a 3-lane road on an open green is just about suicide if there is another car across from you.
3. 1000000 questions about your car.
4. People asking you if you deliver the mail with it.
1. Drive-thru fast food is on the wrong side
2. Making a left turn from a turn lane on a 3-lane road on an open green is just about suicide if there is another car across from you.
3. 1000000 questions about your car.
4. People asking you if you deliver the mail with it.
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Originally Posted by El Nene 7
thanks a lot you really helped out bro...oh and for all of you that say you hate hearing about the rhd swap
1....search buton does not show anything about the swap and
2....its what i want and like i didnt ask if you like it or your opinion...i simply asked those who have done the swap or tried the work and did not finish
thank you for all who have input on my thread and for those who have something negative to say keep your two cents to your self.....oh and hate the "i want to make my n/a turbo " threads but i dont go bitchin about it i will simply tell them bro check aaron cakes spost all you need is in there instead of my " .02"cents![Dunno](https://www.rx7club.com/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
1....search buton does not show anything about the swap and
2....its what i want and like i didnt ask if you like it or your opinion...i simply asked those who have done the swap or tried the work and did not finish
thank you for all who have input on my thread and for those who have something negative to say keep your two cents to your self.....oh and hate the "i want to make my n/a turbo " threads but i dont go bitchin about it i will simply tell them bro check aaron cakes spost all you need is in there instead of my " .02"cents
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Originally Posted by digitalsolo
I'm starting to think there should simply be a forum rule that guys talking about RHD swaps or turbo'd N/As should have to have a running vehicle with the work done before they post.
I've seen 20-30 people talk about this, and none accomplish it thus far. Good luck, maybe you'll be the first. Regardless, it's a lot of work for no purpose other then bling. Whatever floats your boat.
I've seen 20-30 people talk about this, and none accomplish it thus far. Good luck, maybe you'll be the first. Regardless, it's a lot of work for no purpose other then bling. Whatever floats your boat.
Originally Posted by Ceipherz
He wasnt bitching. He was stating a fact. There are multiple threads about going RHD, or N/A-Turbo ect ect. But 95% of them are never completed. The only one "bitching" here was you.
Originally Posted by El Nene 7
hey guys a while back ICEBLUE started his rhd setup i dont know if he finished it yet or what but after looking at his blog ...i am going to a new project and thats making my baby RHD...
i know i know why rhd...well for the last 3 years i have been living in japan and still am and i have gotten use to it but when i go home it feels diffrent
now i know a lot of you dont think its a good idea but....1)its diffrent 2)i got easy access to all needed parts 3) funds are there 4) how many of you know or seen rhd fc3s's driving around 5) way cheaper than trying to import a car from japan..trust me i gave up after the 4th month
if you guys can help with pictures ..write ups...parts needed...
also since iam doing my whole interior in fiberglass it will be easier because i would have the dash out...1 step done
i know i know why rhd...well for the last 3 years i have been living in japan and still am and i have gotten use to it but when i go home it feels diffrent
now i know a lot of you dont think its a good idea but....1)its diffrent 2)i got easy access to all needed parts 3) funds are there 4) how many of you know or seen rhd fc3s's driving around 5) way cheaper than trying to import a car from japan..trust me i gave up after the 4th month
if you guys can help with pictures ..write ups...parts needed...
also since iam doing my whole interior in fiberglass it will be easier because i would have the dash out...1 step done
First step back take a few. I was very serious in my posts that you MUST know what you are doing and getting involved in. If you fail here you will no longer have a car! THIS IS NOT EASY!
Ok you say I can do it, now guess how hard it will be and times that by 3.
Now that you are going forth here are some pointers.
What are your qualifications and experience? Do you have the tools? The tools are a big deal! You need to know bodywork and how the structures of the car are designed or you will make your car weak and unsafe. A lot of strength is held in the firewall. You need to know tolerances of item how far out of OEM exact spec they can be in. Do you know how to weld; you will be doing a LOT of it.
All right what I did was had a wrecked clip imported. I striped this clip then mocked its parts up to my USDM car. Every photo I have is documented into the blog but I have several weeks of work I have not posted due to I am on dial up and it takes me around 3hrs a post or longer to upload the pics and organize it. I will post them soon.
There are many methods of approach on this swap the method I chose was the hardest. I chose this way b/c it is the proper way and provides the most structural integrity and aloud me to strengthen the body as well. As you saw I disassembled and reassembled the body this required a lot of spot-weld drilling re-drilling metal shaping with a dolly and bump hammer. Coating the weld spots in weld through primer cutting and shaping new metal to weld in. You must be EXSACT or your car will never work again b/c nothing will line up like the steering column. I also did not want a hacked up looking job this will be a show car as well.
On the “new” passenger side I welded everything shut and used a hole saw to cut new holes this was not critical b/c the only thing over here is wire harness. I had to make a wiper section and make new brake lines.
The easy way of this would be to just cut new holes as needed and leave everything else just there or fill in what you can. I know of 2 other people who have attempted this they claim not completed yet “2 months latter” and there’s looks hacked to me. To give you an idea this took me 3 days they are yet completed. One person just used a JDM rack and thought it would work but the steering post is angled other way on JDM cars the pedal assembly is different and more stuff. You also have to reverse the rear light harness to the other side and use a JDM harness. One dood tried to use his USDM harness and now is ranting.
The best I can say is read my blog well I will update it soon. If you can follow it then give it a shot but please take your time researching this it is a big project.
Last edited by iceblue; 01-18-06 at 05:28 PM.
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damn el nene......... we are two friggin peas in a pod......... ive been researching doing a rhd swap for a while...... looking for a good deal to come my way on a jdm front clip...... as soon as that happens, then its all up hill from there....... we are both butt-*** backwards though... we go through all this body work, and paint, just to f#@ck it all up to do a rhd swap...lol.........even being careful, i know that my baby is gonna get scratches everywhere... oh well...... it will be worth it! if you get any tips on where to find a good jdm clip, lemme know.... the cheapest i could find is $900 shipped (thats for a motorless clip, no fenders, suspension..blah blah) just everything to do a rhd swap..... good luck, and keep me posted
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I had visions of this skip throug hmy head last winter when I was in Quebec checking out 20b's and found a FULL RHD clip...also happened to have a full HKS turbo setup, RE swap with ApexiPFC.......but it was too rich for my blood - 2000 for the clip...............then the work - MY GOD - the work.........
Props Iceblue for the conversion - you ARE the reason anyone who thinks about this tries it
Props Iceblue for the conversion - you ARE the reason anyone who thinks about this tries it
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if you guys are serious about this i have a black RHD dash with a one crack (which could be covered by a carbon fiber guage pillar from corksport), RHD power steering rack, steering column and power steering lines all for sale. i was asking 200 plus shipping. The dash has the wiring harness still behind it, but its chopped in one place (came like that for some reason) I'll throw in all the misc interior pieces left with it and whatever cables i have laying around. I had a front clip and this is just the leftover stuff. either of you can PM me if interested.
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^ thx for posting its sale. I want to make known if you are not going the drill hose and make it work method it is really in your best interest to get the entire clip from him. If you don’t you will never get it right it will just work.
You need briefly i may miss some stuff.
All the brackets inside firewall and on the corners. The body harness from the car "takes about 3hrs to remove after striped" the dash and brace and dash harness, throttle cable, rack, wiper blade arms, pedal assembly, column mount, steering column, AC, logicon, heater core, blower motor, cluster assembly, grommets from firewall, wiper motor, all the padded insulation.
You need briefly i may miss some stuff.
All the brackets inside firewall and on the corners. The body harness from the car "takes about 3hrs to remove after striped" the dash and brace and dash harness, throttle cable, rack, wiper blade arms, pedal assembly, column mount, steering column, AC, logicon, heater core, blower motor, cluster assembly, grommets from firewall, wiper motor, all the padded insulation.
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Maybe because I do body work Im looking at it like this but i think that buying a FULL clip(front) and than cut from the pillars and then "sleeve" those. and reinforce. and then for floor, sleeve as well w/ heavey reinforcement. Plus if you're going out like that why not a full cage? b/c to try and cut the firewall mount pedals find all steering parts. For me it seems too much.Also I thought that you could ship a vehicle from overseas as long as its engine bay was empty???if this is true maybe that would come out cheaper?? And ICEBLUE gotta give props for pulling this(even though it isnt really where i would put my dollar) but if you're ever in Orl. ya' gotta lemme check it out.... Some more peoples pennies for you NENE.-Erik
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this is irony. i'm driving a LHD FC in a RHD country!
i imported my car from the states and it's an NA. Bear in mind there is no NA FC in Asia and that makes it even more unique. and to be really honest, is a love and hate thing being LHD. i hate getting parking tickets where i need to crossover to get the ticket. i can't go McD drive thru without a passenger. but hey....is one hell of a head turner. and yeah....u do get like 10000000000 questions; even from the cops. is definitely a proud ride.
is sure hard to get replacement parts when certain thing breaks down. ESPECIALLY; Steering RACK!! this is gonna be a pain where i know i would be needing it soon.
i drove this car in Malaysia for about a year now and it sure gets on my nerves being a LHD at times. the weird thing is i love being different from the others. even tho it sure seems a lot of trouble. i can imagine the work needed for the swap and i sure know how much it takes to upkeep something so unique. it's insane guys. but hey....if we wanted something easier, we would have got a damn civic right? why FC from the start?
bottom line, i won't swap it to RHD in my country! i'ma keep it one of a kind. good luck guys.
oh yeah......if there's anything i can help in getting, i would love to help. i don't do this for a living but i'm sure i can trade something. anyone got LHD parts to trade for RHD parts? steering rack?
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is sure hard to get replacement parts when certain thing breaks down. ESPECIALLY; Steering RACK!! this is gonna be a pain where i know i would be needing it soon.
i drove this car in Malaysia for about a year now and it sure gets on my nerves being a LHD at times. the weird thing is i love being different from the others. even tho it sure seems a lot of trouble. i can imagine the work needed for the swap and i sure know how much it takes to upkeep something so unique. it's insane guys. but hey....if we wanted something easier, we would have got a damn civic right? why FC from the start?
bottom line, i won't swap it to RHD in my country! i'ma keep it one of a kind. good luck guys.
oh yeah......if there's anything i can help in getting, i would love to help. i don't do this for a living but i'm sure i can trade something. anyone got LHD parts to trade for RHD parts? steering rack?
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Originally Posted by NOPR
if you guys are serious about this i have a black RHD dash with a one crack (which could be covered by a carbon fiber guage pillar from corksport), RHD power steering rack, steering column and power steering lines all for sale. i was asking 200 plus shipping. The dash has the wiring harness still behind it, but its chopped in one place (came like that for some reason) I'll throw in all the misc interior pieces left with it and whatever cables i have laying around. I had a front clip and this is just the leftover stuff. either of you can PM me if interested.
hopefully NOPR helps me with this deal iceblue what else do i need from what he has to sell and thanks to everyone helping
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