2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

idle issues

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-06-11 | 11:51 AM
  #26  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 12
From: tulsa,ok.
Originally Posted by duno1818
the first set of throttle plates are wide open(just two at top) the second set are almost completly closed(three plates, two on top one on bottom). i also tried switching the vac hoses and nothing change except when i actually took them off. also i did push the screw/linkage down with a srew driver as far as i could push it and there isn't any change. the only time the idle changes is if ipush the opposite way on the throttle. the rpms drop but then go back to about 2000rpm. right now its sitting at 2300 rpm but that seems to flucuate
How about adjusting the Dashpot. Just look it over and see how many threads are exposed on the side where the lock nut is for reference purposes and then try loosening it up and if that doesn't help then return it back to the original position.
Old 02-06-11 | 11:53 AM
  #27  
duno1818's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member

 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
the dashpot, does it kind of look like a ufo saucer with a piston of its own? when i push in on that piston the idle drops but then reterns back tto about 2000rpm. this is really frustrating
Old 02-06-11 | 12:07 PM
  #28  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 12
From: tulsa,ok.
Originally Posted by duno1818
the dashpot, does it kind of look like a ufo saucer with a piston of its own? when i push in on that piston the idle drops but then reterns back tto about 2000rpm. this is really frustrating
Yes it looks like a UFO, but after you push in the Dashpot piston and the idle drops does the idle climb back up with the piston still depressed or after the piston is let go?
Old 02-06-11 | 03:00 PM
  #29  
duno1818's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member

 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
after i let go but im gonna go check to make sure
Old 02-06-11 | 03:04 PM
  #30  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 12
From: tulsa,ok.
Originally Posted by duno1818
after i let go but im gonna go check to make sure
Well, if the idle drops when it is depressed and after you release the Dashpot piston the idle then climbs then adjust the Dashpot so it doesn't raise the idle when the piston is fully extended.
Old 02-06-11 | 03:06 PM
  #31  
duno1818's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member

 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
where can i adjust it at
Old 02-06-11 | 03:11 PM
  #32  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 12
From: tulsa,ok.
Originally Posted by duno1818
where can i adjust it at
Loosen the lock nut and turn the dashpot till the piston doesn't affect the idle adversely. Just play with the thing you'll get the hang of it.
Old 02-06-11 | 03:15 PM
  #33  
duno1818's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member

 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
alright thanks
Old 02-06-11 | 03:20 PM
  #34  
duno1818's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member

 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
ok its not the piston on the dashpot thats making the idle drop it's linkage that pushes on it that makes the idle drop.
Old 02-06-11 | 03:29 PM
  #35  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 12
From: tulsa,ok.
Originally Posted by duno1818
ok its not the piston on the dashpot thats making the idle drop it's linkage that pushes on it that makes the idle drop.
If the linkage is pressing upon the piston and that makes the idle drop then still adjust the Dashpot so that the idle drops.
Old 02-06-11 | 03:33 PM
  #36  
duno1818's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member

 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
i adjusted it all the way out. the piton wasn't touching no diff. i ajusted it all the way in no diff. i pushed on the linkage, it was not touching the piston and the idle dropped. its the linkage. so what now?
Old 02-06-11 | 03:45 PM
  #37  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 12
From: tulsa,ok.
Originally Posted by duno1818
i adjusted it all the way out. the piton wasn't touching no diff. i ajusted it all the way in no diff. i pushed on the linkage, it was not touching the piston and the idle dropped. its the linkage. so what now?
Are you suggesting when you press on the linkage that the Dashpot piston rests against that this causes the idle to drop? As you press against this linkage can you see that the throttle linkage at the front of the throttle body moves in a downward position?
Old 02-06-11 | 03:50 PM
  #38  
duno1818's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member

 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
no. the only thing that makes the idle drop is pressing on the throttle linkage in the opposite way.weather in front or back of the throttle body. it has nothing to do with the dashpot. yes the linkage in front moves
Old 02-06-11 | 03:55 PM
  #39  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 12
From: tulsa,ok.
Originally Posted by duno1818
the only thing that makes the idle drop is pressing on the throttle linkage in the opposite way.weather in front or back of the throttle body.
A couple of posts ago you suggested the idle dropped when you "pushed" on the linkage. Now do you mean "pull" instead of "push"as that would make a whole bunch of sense. If you're at the passenger fender and your moving the linkage behind the throttle body toward you that would be an example of "pulling" and not "pushing." Please clarify.
Old 02-06-11 | 04:01 PM
  #40  
duno1818's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member

 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
im sorry for not being clear i am pushing away from the fender not pulling toward
Old 02-06-11 | 04:04 PM
  #41  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 12
From: tulsa,ok.
Originally Posted by duno1818
im sorry for not being clear i am pushing away from the fender not pulling toward
So pushing the linkage near the dashpot away from the fender causes the idle to drop. Is this correct?
Old 02-06-11 | 04:11 PM
  #42  
duno1818's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member

 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
ok i think i might be on to something. the cable that lead from the linkage on the back side of the TB that goes to the passenger side to a can(i dont know what its called). i adjusted it and the idle dropped. i got it down to about 800rpm but its got a hesitation when i give it gas. and it has killed on me twice when giving it alittle gas.
Old 02-06-11 | 04:13 PM
  #43  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 12
From: tulsa,ok.
Originally Posted by duno1818
ok i think i might be on to something. the cable that lead from the linkage on the back side of the TB that goes to the passenger side to a can(i dont know what its called). i adjusted it and the idle dropped. i got it down to about 800rpm but its got a hesitation when i give it gas. and it has killed on me twice when giving it alittle gas.
Does this car have cruise control?
Old 02-06-11 | 04:17 PM
  #44  
duno1818's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member

 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
i think it did but hasn't had it since i've had the car.
Old 02-06-11 | 04:21 PM
  #45  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 12
From: tulsa,ok.
Originally Posted by duno1818
i think it did but hasn't had it since i've had the car.
I believe the cable you were messing with deals with the cruise control system which would then explain things. With the car "fully" warmed up you need to adjust the TPS to one volt and fidget with the Dashpot to get it back to a proper position. Now when the hesitation occured was it when pressing down on the gas or letting off of the gas?
Old 02-06-11 | 04:25 PM
  #46  
duno1818's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member

 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
i just tapped the gas pedal both times it killed so i guess when pulling off of the gas pedal. the car has been running and warmed up for at least an hour now. so i need to get a volt meter?
Old 02-06-11 | 04:31 PM
  #47  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 12
From: tulsa,ok.
Originally Posted by duno1818
i just tapped the gas pedal both times it killed so i guess when pulling off of the gas pedal. the car has been running and warmed up for at least an hour now.
When doing its job the Dashpot is designed to prevent the throttle plates from closing too quickly when suddenly pulling off of the throttle which might be the cause of this problem so reinstall the Dashpot to its previous position.
Old 02-06-11 | 05:09 PM
  #48  
duno1818's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member

 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
ive been adjusting it back and forth and it still hass the hasitation. but i was wrong it hestates when my foot is on the gas not pulling off. also i took the cable for the cruize control off just so i didn't have to worry about it
Old 02-06-11 | 07:33 PM
  #49  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 12
From: tulsa,ok.
Set The TPS if you haven't already.
Old 02-06-11 | 10:12 PM
  #50  
duno1818's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member

 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
i checked the TPS and it was dead on.


Quick Reply: idle issues



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:20 PM.