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02-23-06, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bigdv519
Also with spark, I forget who said it, but they said, if you want to make sure your really have spark, unplug the wire from the spark plug and hold it in your hand, then have an assistant crank the motor. Or you could unplug the wire and try to cause a spark from the wire to the shock tower bolts. But the first idea is just as accurate, and much more memorable.
Don't do this trick as you'll have to change your trousers afterwards.
I can tell you the date and the truck that I tried that trick on. It was 1980....March Friday afternoon. A 1964 Ford F-150................
02-23-06, 04:09 AM
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Have you tried to push-start it yet as previously suggested? If you got the timing, the fuel and the spark that should work just fine. Sometimes push-start is the only way to get it running.
02-23-06, 04:53 AM
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Ok I may be just shooting it out my *** right now so please excuse me If I sound really retarded. This hasnt happened to me on a 7 so I dont know if it is possible.
When I did the rebuild on my 3.1 v-6 it had spark fuel, good compression and crancked over good. still no fire I worked and worked on it and othing. Until I happened to look at the throttle body. It was completly closed with no way to get any air into the engine. No + everything else = no start. Adjusted it and boom fired right up.
I know it was on a piston engine...and it sounds like a totally stupid thing to suggest. Flame now if I am a complete retard. but hey its almost always a little thing like that hangs people up.
When I did the rebuild on my 3.1 v-6 it had spark fuel, good compression and crancked over good. still no fire I worked and worked on it and othing. Until I happened to look at the throttle body. It was completly closed with no way to get any air into the engine. No + everything else = no start. Adjusted it and boom fired right up.
I know it was on a piston engine...and it sounds like a totally stupid thing to suggest. Flame now if I am a complete retard. but hey its almost always a little thing like that hangs people up.
02-23-06, 06:29 AM
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Check/replace your main/egi fuses as necessary... also check your "engine" fuse inside the car on the driver's kick panel. Check your fuel pressure after the filter with a pressure gauge. Check for a huge vacuum leak.... Try wiring you a fuel cut off switch (search on here) to get this thing started. Pull/push start it. I'm exhausted.
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02-23-06, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jhammons01
memorable???? Man, that is putting it mildly
Don't do this trick as you'll have to change your trousers afterwards.
I can tell you the date and the truck that I tried that trick on. It was 1980....March Friday afternoon. A 1964 Ford F-150................
Don't do this trick as you'll have to change your trousers afterwards.
I can tell you the date and the truck that I tried that trick on. It was 1980....March Friday afternoon. A 1964 Ford F-150................
You should try it with and MSD coil on there...now that was a hair-raising experience.
NOTE: Really folks, don't shock yourselfs. If you must, have an assistant hold the wire and you crank. ;-)
02-23-06, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SpAm@FC
nobody had mentioned the AFM!
maybe you've forgot to plug it in, or the plug isn't rigt in place... try it, only takes 1minute and maybe its the problem
maybe you've forgot to plug it in, or the plug isn't rigt in place... try it, only takes 1minute and maybe its the problem
02-23-06, 02:20 PM
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When I first tried to start my freshly rebuilt motor, it refused to start until I messed with the throttle, and eventually, just flooring it and keeping it floored got it to start. Give it a shot if you haven’t already.
Also - I have 3mm RA seals I got from a friend for cheeeeap, and my car now starts fine, so don't think they are an issue.
Also - I have 3mm RA seals I got from a friend for cheeeeap, and my car now starts fine, so don't think they are an issue.
02-23-06, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JoshRX7
Check/replace your main/egi fuses as necessary... also check your "engine" fuse inside the car on the driver's kick panel. Check your fuel pressure after the filter with a pressure gauge. Check for a huge vacuum leak.... Try wiring you a fuel cut off switch (search on here) to get this thing started. Pull/push start it. I'm exhausted.
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all vaccum hoses that i can reach are sealing good and i cant see anything leaking.
02-23-06, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SpAm@FC
nobody had mentioned the AFM!
maybe you've forgot to plug it in, or the plug isn't rigt in place... try it, only takes 1minute and maybe its the problem
maybe you've forgot to plug it in, or the plug isn't rigt in place... try it, only takes 1minute and maybe its the problem
what is the AFM? where is it located... just want to check everything that everyone mentioned
02-23-06, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by slpin
are you using the same pulley that came off of the same hub?
same ext parts are all the same but the belts and fuel filter they are all new!
02-23-06, 02:38 PM
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UPDATE!!!!
i will be trying to push/pull it tonight when the rest of the family is here.
UMM, PLEASE more options are great.
anyone willing to drive or fly here ill supply the food and lodging for as long as you want to stay, but buy or fly your way here.
IM A KILLER on the grill
i will be trying to push/pull it tonight when the rest of the family is here.
UMM, PLEASE more options are great.
anyone willing to drive or fly here ill supply the food and lodging for as long as you want to stay, but buy or fly your way here.
IM A KILLER on the grill
02-23-06, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Made_Man
AFM = MAF
The airflow meter - by the air filter
The airflow meter - by the air filter
ok there is somthing that i can work with
is there a way that i can test that???? im talking barn style stuff .
02-23-06, 02:51 PM
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^^^No, just make sure that the large black rubber tube that hooks your throttle body to your air filter is in place. you don't have to have the air filter there but you do need the thing that was located at the end of the black tube to be there. There is a wire on your fire wall with a green connector ( correct me if I am wrong as to where the wire originates) on it that needs to plug into the bottom of the black rubber thing.......that is the AFM.
02-23-06, 02:52 PM
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It should start without it hooked up. The way it was explained to me was that when you're trying to start it, the fuel pump is running, and it doesn't care about the MAF. As soon as you go from the start position to the "on" position, it switches to the MAF. If it were unplugged, it would then die. So I don't *think* that's your problem, but i'm not 100% on that.
02-23-06, 02:53 PM
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You might want to open your maf up and see if any of the soddering came off of the little connections by the gauge inside, when i put a new engine in my 88 vert i couldn't get it started and drove my self crazy trying to figure it out, and it ended up being the maf but instead of buying a new one all i had to do was resodder the connection, worth a look
02-23-06, 02:57 PM
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just use a flat head screw driver and on the side of the maf right there at the air box or if your open element right after it there is a little prob 3"x3" black plate with epoxy going around it and just pry it up, cause it did sit for 6 yrs so vibration could have broke the connection
02-23-06, 03:04 PM
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i've had an accident with my rex and after this crash the car won't start.... it wasn't running for one second
i've figured out that my MAF was damaged (maybe the flapper door was bad?)...
so i've installed another one and the car started right away... so i think it could be the MAF... but first, try to pushstart the damn thing and double check all things mentioned here... maybe you have a rx7driver near your location who will borrow you his MAF for some beers to try it
i've figured out that my MAF was damaged (maybe the flapper door was bad?)...
so i've installed another one and the car started right away... so i think it could be the MAF... but first, try to pushstart the damn thing and double check all things mentioned here... maybe you have a rx7driver near your location who will borrow you his MAF for some beers to try it
02-23-06, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7raceangel
You might want to open your maf up and see if any of the soddering came off of the little connections by the gauge inside, when i put a new engine in my 88 vert i couldn't get it started and drove my self crazy trying to figure it out, and it ended up being the maf but instead of buying a new one all i had to do was resodder the connection, worth a look
here are some pictures that i took of the MAF thing i dont see anything loose but here yah go....
can it be a bad connection and if so how can i hep it connect.
02-23-06, 03:26 PM
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That all looks fine. As long as no wires are completely un-attached, or the prongs are touching each other, it'll be fine. I'd try the pull-start..pushing may not work. With Tofuball's T2, it took driving in circles (in first, I think) for something like an hour until it finally would run. Just a thought...Know anyone with a truck?