Ryde _Or_Die

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6327

The guy wants $8000 for a S4 GXL with a rebuilt engine and a nice paint job? Why does he have 720cc secondaries and a cosmo fuel pump? I didn't see a mention of any turbo or SC. This one confuses me. Why does everyone enjoy spending money on pointless items? At least his car is tuned.

DAN CARWIN

I really like how the engine parts are painted the same color as the exterior!!! (laugh) kids these days.

Center of The Universe

Makes you faster, duh.

Ryde _Or_Die

I just can't get over the $8000. I can get an FD here locally for $7000 and rebuild the engine for $1000. This guy is retarted for selling his S4 NA for $8000. And I hope to god no one is dumb enough to pay that.

beefhole

iTrader: (29)

The guy paid 3500 for a paint job, why, I don't know. Sure it looks nice, but why do that? It's not worth it. No wonder he wants 8000...

Ryde _Or_Die

He may have very well spent double $8000 on his car. Doesn't mean anyone else will pay that for what is essentially a S4 GXL.

walken

iTrader: (6)

I think he bought the car for 6500 a few months ago, it said it was used on the set of 2F2F. Then he tried to sell it for like 12 grand last month.

I would maybe pay 6...

Ryde _Or_Die

Well KBB value in excellent condition is $3185. Now you buy it and get in an accident, thats what you get. Not the $6000 you paid for it.

BDoty311

Well I got almost $3k for my car from the insurace company with 225,000 miles. Mostly because of rebuilt motor and "custom" paint.

Takahasi_Ryosuke

I wouldnt touch that car with a 10 foot pole you can tell by how the guy riced it then he prolly ran it to its limits and an S4 GXL for $8000, sheeesh, might as well get an S5 T2 without the ugly *** body kit

BlackIceGuitar

"Fuel
Cosmo (3 rotor) upgraded fuel pump ($275)
720cc injectors ($220)"

for a street ported n/a?

hondahater

iTrader: (2)

I wish my car looked that nice.

Ryde _Or_Die

Exactly. Who told this guy how to mod an NA? They wasted a few hundred dollars of his at least.

sectachrome

besides the un needed stuff he put on there, i think it looks sweet, i dont know what you guys are bitching about. not 8k sweet though.

Evil Aviator

You as missing all the GOOD stuff hidden by the rice junk.

Take another look:

9,000 mile professionally-built street-ported engine
Fluidyne radiator
Racing Beat 8mm Street Wires
Jacobs Ignition pack
Brand new alternator from NAPA with lifetime warranty
ACT racing clutch, pressure plate and flywheel
MazdaSpeed short shifter and shift ****
Brand new driveshaft with replacable U-joints
Full Mazdaspeed Adjustable Coilovers with dampening control
Front Strut Tower Bar
Full 3" Racing Beat Exhaust
Bonez mid section – high flow catalytic converter and silencer
PowerStop cross drilled rotors, front and back
Mazdaspeed pads, & steel braided lines
Defi Link System Gauges (FYI these gauges rock!)
Apex’i Super-AFC

Now that we have looked past the rice, this is some good stuff!

The tires also have a decent amount of tread.
front: Nitto 555 (90% tread)
rear: Bridgestone (85% tread)

I only have two questions though:
1) Why use the S-AFC and a reprogrammed chip? I must be missing something about that J-Spec chip. Timing maybe? Why not just slap on a LT8 for the same price? IMO two band-aids don't equal a life support system.
2) Full Mazdaspeed Adjustable Coilovers with dampening control. Um, the full Mazdaspeed suspension for the FC (aka Stage II Kit) is a Koni/Eibach setup with camber/caster plates and Eibach swaybars. I know, because I have it on my car, lol. So what's on this car? Anybody? Bueller?

Yeah, he probably should have used 500 or 550cc injectors, but the 720's will work. Maybe he got a good deal on the 720's? I don't see anything wrong with the fuel pump upgrade as long as he got a new pump.

I agree. For somebody who actually likes all that rice stuff, the car is easily worth $6K if everything is in good shape.

Scott 89t2

the old "mazdaspeed" company (in japan before the name was bought by mazda comp) had a coil over kit I'm pretty sure. I think corksport sold it.


edit: yep still on the corksport site too

Digi7ech

iTrader: (1)

You see the air vent on the passenger side rear of the hood??

Not a totally bad idea for our cars. Although I wouldn't have done that to a TII hood. Maybe an NA hood.

NZConvertible

I think that's a really good idea, especially if you have a turbo. It's subtle, it's functional, it doesn't cut up the hood structure, and if it's done properly (can't really tell in those pics), would not look out of place. I've seen a lot less tasteful ways to remove engine bay heat on this forum.

Personally I think the only thing wrong with that car (apart from the engine bay detailing) is that it's not turbo'd.

Ryde _Or_Die

I do see the good stuff, but not anything that can sell the car for more than what its going for now, $4000. If it didn't have the stuff you mentioned its a sub $1000 car. At least thats what I can get NAs for all day. I'm sure he wants to get his money back, but its just not going to happen. If he wanted to spend all that money, he should have done it on a TII for a better resale value.

TheTwinTurboRX-7

I don't see too much rice either. A little repainting under the hood, and a remove those pedal covers and you'd have one really nice RX in my opinion. I'd buy it, for about 5500 though.

The Unsent

i'd pay 4k at the most.

Ryde _Or_Die

Damn guys. $5500? Holy ****. I'd sell my TII for around there. He has basic upgrades to an NA. I sold my GXL for $600 lol. Pretty good shape, ran strong as hell. Probably would beat this one, straight line wise. I never said it was very ricey. Just wayyyy too much money for a S4 NA, no matter the shape.

Evil Aviator

Aha! Thanks.

OK, so it's not as good as my Mazda Comp suspension, but it looks like a really nice non-competition or autocross setup.
http://www.corksport.com/content/00/...ges/473458.jpg

LOL, but it DOES have the stuff that I mentioned. Of course he is going to need to find the right buyer to get more than $2-3K for it, but I don't think it's going to be that difficult to find someone who wants those mods. No, he's not getting all the money out of the car, but I can assure you that there is quite a bit more than $8,000 in that car. Besides, the "buy it now price" is usually higher than the reserve price.

How can you call that an NA with "basic" mods? That thing is loaded for a street car, and has a show-quality paint job (minus the minor damage) and a fairly new rebuilt SP engine. No, it doesn't have the mods that I would like given the money spent on the car, but it does have a lot of good quality stuff. It's not like somebody putting a junkyard intercooler and Home Depot boost controller on their TII and thinking that they have something. You guys need to understand that not everybody likes turbocharged cars, and not everybody considers the S5 superior to the S4. It sounds like you are biased toward the S4 NA, which many people consider the best RX-7 made, myself included.

BTW, you probably could have sold your GXL for twice that amount.

http://www.improvedtouring.com/Classifieds/

Ryde _Or_Die

All I am saying is this stuff equals about $1000-2000 MAYBE. And most of that is for the suspension IMO and the gauges I like to have. So I'd say $3000 is what I'd be willing to pay with documentation of a quality rebuild. Thats just me, an NA is an NA is an NA is an NA to me. You can get them all day long, put all the mods you want to remain NA and it still is a 15 second car if running good for the most part.

Evil Aviator

Well that's just it. No matter what, you are not going to like an NA. That's fine, but it doesn't mean that the car has no market value.

As for the parts you listed as being worth $1,000-2,000, approximate new values as follows:
$4,000 SP Rebuild with new rotors and housings
$400 Fluidyne Radiator
$100 Racing Beat 8mm Street Wires
$350 Jacobs Ignition pack
$180 Brand new alternator from NAPA with lifetime warranty
$700 ACT racing clutch, pressure plate and flywheel
$300 MazdaSpeed short shifter and shift ****
$300 Brand new driveshaft with replacable U-joints
$1600 Full Mazdaspeed Adjustable Coilovers with dampening control
$100 Front Strut Tower Bar
$600 Full 3" Racing Beat Exhaust
$300 Bonez mid section – high flow catalytic converter and silencer
$200 PowerStop cross drilled rotors, front and back
$200 Mazdaspeed pads, & steel braided lines
$800 Defi Link System Gauges
$300 Apex’i Super-AFC

$10,430 Total

Even if you figure in 50% value for being used, that's still worth over $5K, not including all of the other parts (fuel pump, injectors, etc.), the nice paint job and all of the show parts. It looks to me like there is about $20K in this car.