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06-26-02, 11:49 AM
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I Can't Beleive I Am Askin This...
Seriously. No flames here. I am really considering getting an S4 TII instead of a S5 N/A. Someone check my head, the N/A Freak might go TURBO! Anyway, tell me why I should go TII. Now, striaght line is fun, but I am planning on gettin a bit of a drift club goin here in my hometown, so no "A TII would smoke a N/A in a straight line dog!!" I couldn't care less. How does a TII drift? I know that all the guys in Japan do it, but I am just curious. I want pros and cons of a Turbo.
06-26-02, 11:59 AM
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Drifting a turbo can get tricky, but if you can trail brake, you should be all set. The tough part is when you let the boost drop and then get back on the gas, the *** end likes to try to pass the front as soon as the boost builds. Hmm...I guess I know more than just straight line driving. 
06-26-02, 12:07 PM
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Ok, why you should go turbo: BOOST! Simple. You have more options to get power with, you can add exhaust and see increase in performance instantly (be sure you have the fuel with it, and you don't hit fuel cut!) Also, there's nothing like the sound of a blow off valve! You will fall to the dark side
06-26-02, 12:11 PM
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06-26-02, 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by dre_2ooo
Um.... why not get a S5 TII?
Um.... why not get a S5 TII?
06-26-02, 12:23 PM
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I am sorry I'll go more into details...I was just being a quick.
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The following is a big IMO:
The advantage of a NA is the balance (well except for the GXL which always seems bloated to me). The NA is much more balanced to its HP than a T2. The Torque is much more linear, and the over all car is much more tossable.
But the HP rush in a T2 is great. although I feel its peaky, there is a perceived major amount of HP in the upper levels. More so on the series 5 cars though. I always felt the series 4 T2 were not that much faster than then lighter NA cars (like the Sport) at the time. The added weight of all the extras on the T2 helps balance that HP out, but much like my 'vert makes the car feel much more heavy and not as tossible as the NA. But the extra HP is nice and its easy to get much more HP unlike the NA which will always be stuck with less than 200 without major major work.
Anyway...
The following is a big IMO:
The advantage of a NA is the balance (well except for the GXL which always seems bloated to me). The NA is much more balanced to its HP than a T2. The Torque is much more linear, and the over all car is much more tossable.
But the HP rush in a T2 is great. although I feel its peaky, there is a perceived major amount of HP in the upper levels. More so on the series 5 cars though. I always felt the series 4 T2 were not that much faster than then lighter NA cars (like the Sport) at the time. The added weight of all the extras on the T2 helps balance that HP out, but much like my 'vert makes the car feel much more heavy and not as tossible as the NA. But the extra HP is nice and its easy to get much more HP unlike the NA which will always be stuck with less than 200 without major major work.
06-26-02, 12:29 PM
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Don't call my car bloated, it has feelings, it's like a woman, got to love it and lie to it so it keeps on doin good, and I can't EVER call it fat, oh lord that would be the end of it!
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I have a 89 GXL what about the car gives it that bloated feeling in your opinion? Seriously asking, cuz ive had a 85gsl-se fun car and now 89GXL and I love it. It drifts perfectly, very tossable. IMO i think drifting w/ a turbo would be very diff. But like somone said, Japan has a much bigger TII
Following than na. Those cars are like civics are over here- Nothin wrong with a country that loves RX7's and GTR's (Skyline that is)
Following than na. Those cars are like civics are over here- Nothin wrong with a country that loves RX7's and GTR's (Skyline that is)
06-26-02, 01:09 PM
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So, I assume that a N/A would be easier to drift? I assumed that the turbo lag (however small on the stock turbo) would be a drift problem. Also, I think the quickness of a lightened N/A is just fine for straight lining. Anyway, which would you reccomend for a begenning drifter?
06-26-02, 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by banzaitoyota
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06-26-02, 01:28 PM
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I had a 90' GXL for three years I loved it but wanted more power and the thought of toppin out at 200hp without going internal wasn't to appealing to me so after I wrecked my GXL I swore that no matter what I was getting a 89-91' TII and now I have one and they are two totally different cars in the corners and strait line. The GCL felt better in the corners a little more predictable under throttle in my TII when the boost comes on watch out that thing likes to swap ends easy but I just got the car and I am not really used to it yet. But for drifting I think the TII is alot easier to pratice on (don't have to wait for it to rain). On the GXL I had 16" rims and dunlop SP5000 and I would have to dump it around a corner to get it really sideways and second gear forget it (I know mine was a pooper it had a TII motor in it with no turbo only motor I could find internet wasn't big around my place yet) now the TII has Yokahama AVS sports 225's on it and 1st 2nd 3rd no problem getting it sideways if I want (it has Turbo back RB exhaust and bonez intake and walbro fuel pump and and varios other save the motor mods)
If I had to do it over again I would have bought the TII in the first place. Hope that helps you make your choice.
If I had to do it over again I would have bought the TII in the first place. Hope that helps you make your choice.
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06-26-02, 01:52 PM
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Well, like I said, all I care about is how it carves cornes, and how predictable it handles under throttle. I think that N/A drifting is the way to go for my driving style. I had little problem gettin my n/a sideways, so I will stick w/ n/a. Boost is fun, but handling is more my game...
06-26-02, 02:51 PM
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Amen rico brotha!!!! May god smile down on you and give you a long life!!! N/A is the more perdictable corner car. I can beat my friend in the GXL once I get it moving in any corner and he has a TII. Gotta have a corner car.
You have to feel her curves man. moving up and down back and forth. Oh yeah thats the life.
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You have to feel her curves man. moving up and down back and forth. Oh yeah thats the life.
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06-26-02, 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by SonicRaT
Why do you think a T2 wouldn't corner well?
Why do you think a T2 wouldn't corner well?
06-26-02, 02:56 PM
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I wasn't aware there was THAT large of a weight difference between them, and I doubt rico's going to just let the car be a hog and not start reducing weight. I would think they would both handle pretty equally, with the NA getting out of the corner a little faster maybe before the turbo spools, but then again, go into a corner with it spooled and come out the same
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Jeez not another N/A guy going over to the darkside, this is just getting out of hand.... 
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If you like handling and a linear power curve stay N/A, boost coming on hard in the middle of a corner is harder to handle.
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If you like handling and a linear power curve stay N/A, boost coming on hard in the middle of a corner is harder to handle.
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