Toxindude

Do you have link that shows where all the grounds are located because a few weeks ago my car wouldnt start at all nothing it was just dead and my dad tapped the starter and it started right up . But when he was down there he said some wires seemed to be loose . I just remembered this . Ever since he did that its been doin what we have been talkin about here . I plan on getting the new injectors ordered tommorow and a UIM gasket just incase . So should be fun when it all gets here and my car can get back to normal again .

Oh and umm for some reason I can't open up the files on the FSM link you left cuz my reader is sucking .

Thanx for all your help so far ive learned alot im glad I joined this site

Toxindude

Are these 460cc Low Impedence ?

http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/Parts...500-1350_4.jpg

NZConvertible

What your Dad saw probably wasn't ground wires, but you should still read this anyway:

http://aaroncake.net/RX-7/grounding.htm

The main engine ground that goes straight to the battery is held on by the starter motor's top mounting bolt. It's a long bolt with a nut on the end, and the ground lug is under the nut. Make sure it's clean and tight.

Go to www.adobe.com and download the lastest version of Reader.

You'll have to ask the supplier about those injectors.

helghast7

iTrader: (6)

....what about the venturi effect or whatever its called, you know when the air around the back gets pressurized or creates a vaccum or something and the air ends up coming back into the cabin.....

i just remeber somthing about this im only asking, im not trying to argue

Toxindude

I think your right about that the wind will come up and catch it and I smell it and damn is it rich . And that is when I am moving

Toxindude

Well I just got my new injectors ordered and I called that place to make sure they were the right ones they were . So I am gonna go check out my grounds on the car next I did read that page on the locations and how to fix them very helpful thank you NZConvertible .

NZConvertible

I was specifically talking about when the ECU is in closed-loop, i.e. the car is moving at speed. How's it going to come back into the cabin then? Where's it going to get in?

helghast7

iTrader: (6)

i think i remeber aaron talking about this, its like a vaccum effect that keeps some of the exhaust mixed with air hanging right t the back of your car at speed, and becasue our cars are notorious for out hatch seals and other tail seals being bad and what not, the air then gets back in, im not positive either, this is all just from memory, so i could be wrong

Toxindude

Well I know my seals are not bad I meant that I could smell it when coming up to a stop or starting to go the wind will come up and catch it and blow it in the drivers window . I dont smell it when at speed .

NZConvertible

That's exactly what I was getting at. A rich idle mixture is common, and not necessarily an indication of problems. The O2 sensor isn't used at idle, so replacing it won't have any effect on this smell, which is what I said at the beginning.

Toxindude

Okay I put all 4 brand new stock injectors on the car . I made sure everything was back together correctly . I went to start the car it started had to ajust the idle speed screw found one vacume line that i missed put it back on the car ran great so I took it for a spin to see if it had cleared up . Well no it did not clear up it is still bogging at 3800 . Now my starter is going pretty bad I dunno if that would cause it prolly not I dunno . The TPS is brand new to ive read a few place's that can cause it to bog but its brand new . I did check all the grounds they seem fine but im worried about the starter and its causing me to think that the ground on it is still causing it to hesitate . I dunno guys let me know thanx

Toxindude

So yesterday everything was running great . Today I drive to work and it smell like hella gas . I open the hood yeah the primary injectors or leaking like a SIV so we took the UIM off and checked out the primarys well one of them the seal on the top was broke off don't know how that happened but okay . So I replaced the upper seals on the injectors and placed them back in there hole and tightend everything down . Finally got everything back together and started the car everything seemed fine then I looked under the car yeah yet again it starts leakin like crazy drippage so we towed it home . I don't know what am I doing wrong why do they keep leaking like that the secondarys are not leaking why the primarys . Yet again what is goin on here I could swear to the man upstairs that they are in there tight and should not leak at all HELP !!

NZConvertible

Are you sure they're the right injectors? Are they physically identical to the ones you took out? I can't see how the correct injectors with new o-rings could leak if the rail's bolted down properly. Do you have the plastic spacer between the engine and fuel rail?

Toxindude

100% sure they are identical yeah I got the plastic spacer in there to they are all bolted down and stuff to I am gonna try to solve this problem this weekend .

Toxindude

So I as outside tryin to fix the problem and I noticed that the old injectors have a diffrent kinda seal on the bottom they were the old primarys by the way these old seals had like a ring inside them . I think I read somthing about how the primarys have to have this kinda seal on the bottom of the injector or they will leak . I also check all the hose's over and over again just incase . Anyway let me know if that is true about the seals thanx.

NZConvertible

There's only one way fuel can leak, and that's at the top o-ring. The bottom seal only prevents a vac leak.

Toxindude

Yeah I figured that out lol Well I got the primarys sealed at least it seems that way . Now I am workin on gettin the secondarys sealed cuz they were leakin to or at leas the back one was anyway thanx .

By the way sweet lookin Convert !!

Toxindude

Everything is fixed an working fine so far .

Toxindude

Its still hesitating at 3800 I regrounded everything injectors are workin great TPS is new no vac leaks that I know of . I dunnow what else it could be .

Toxindude

Yeah I read that link on grounding again turns out I missed part of the one for the negative battery cable so I went out and regrounded it . I havent taken it for a ride yet since everytime I leave my parking spot gets taken but ill let you know lol .

Toxindude

Its hard as hell to get the car started it rolls over and over and will flood out . I am thinking the starter .

Toxindude

Plus I am still getting the 38K hes I have grouned and regrounded yeah I have noticed a diffrence in how the car runs like a top . But its still doin the hesitation does my ECU need to be reset or somthing I mean I can think of what else it could be those freakin secondarys just wont kick on . Ive been trying to solve this for 3days can a bad starter cause 38k hes ? can a plugged EGR cause it ? can the hook up on the MAF cause it ? let me know

NZConvertible

It sound to me like the starter is just fine.

No.

If you're just getting a hesitation at 3800rpm but can keep accelerating beyond that, then the secondary injectors are on. If they don't come on you won't be able to rev above 3800rpm with any sort of load. So is it just a hesitation?

No, no, and unlikely.

Have you done anything with the ground wires at the ECU?

Toxindude

It hits 3800 and you just feel it bog like a jerk you know . Now if you hold it there the tac will move very slowly up but you wont gain anyspeed . I havent done anything with the ground directly at the ECU only the engine ground . I wish I had a cam then I could just post it on here heh . If I am sitting at idle and rev it it will go above 3800 just fine its just when at speed . Do you have a link on grounding at the ECU ?

NZConvertible

That sounds like a secondary injector not firing at all. Make sure the secondary injector connectors are both clean and secure, and the pins inside are making good contact with the injector. Do a continuity test on the injector wires, from the connectors to the ECU.

I posted info on the ECU ground wires here. This doesn't sound like a ground problem to me though.